This thread is impossible. The amount of people posting sarcastically without denoting it and the amount of people sincerely posting conspiracy theories (believable theories and dumb theories that belie a lack of understanding physics) appear in almost equal measure.
Harry lutnick is connected to 9/11
kinda odd that there was a shadow commision, and that Ghislaine Maxwell was invited to it huh…
Also, forget about the massive amount of puts that were purchased against the only two airlines involved in the hijackings just days before the attack.
Oh, and forget about the fact that the building owner profited $300 million by purchasing an exorbitant insurance package after buying the building only nine months before.
Also, definitely forget that Building 7 and the section of the Pentagon that was targeted were housing all the personnel and evidence involved in the biggest financial crimes investigation of the century.
Oh and don’t forget to forget that a large number of agencies that were the ones to deal with that emergency just so happened to be wargaming something very close to the unprecedented event that actually happened that same day: dealing with a terrorist attack that uses airplanes as missiles and flies them into buildings.
NORAD was one of them. Iirc NY firefighters were another.
To be fair if you just bought a building that was a target of a terror attacker just a few years earlier it does make sense to purchase an insurance policy
biggest financial crimes investigation of the century.
Oh come on, even if that were true we’ve had the panama papers and literally nothing happened.
That’s blatantly not true. One of the journalists involved with the Panama Papers died in a car bombing shortly after the Panama Papers were released. That happened.
Just follow the money, there’s documented evidence of unusual pre-9/11 trading that profited from short bets.
Allen Poteshman’s peer-reviewed study in The Journal of Business (2006) concluded: “there is evidence of unusual option market activity in the days leading up to September 11 that is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks.”
that is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks
ugh. that language does not actually say anything. the question is: is it inconsistent with investors trading without advance knowledge of the attacks? i.e. could they also have behaved that way if they had not known of the attacks
You cant post anything that slightly resembles 9/11 conspiracy on this site without a slew of downvotes. I made a post just asking if people believed the official story and got verbatim some of the same comments and a slew of downvotes. Presuming they’re not with other malicious motives, I think they’re just close minded dicks
People here started again about building 7.
Which had the roof of the north tower fall right on top of it, that piece of tower was a about the same size as building 7.
Weird how it “collapsed and burned to the ground”. Must be a conspiracy.
It’s still entertaining to read tho.
Orrrrr… They and everyone else have had twenty-five years to consider your nonsense and it’s boring and distracting from important things
You’ll have to forgive us close minded fucks, we’ve been listening to people spew uninformed shit about jet fuel and steel beams for 25 years and we’re kinda tired.
Go ahead and keep believing everything the government tells you, I’m sure that will work out great.
Like listening to you is going to serve me any better…
I don’t believe most of what the government said. I also don’t think that tower 7 was some sort of inside job. I simply don’t believe the finance bros and the government are capable of keeping these things secret
I had to look it up, the striped building with the dome is from Epstein’s Island.
Oh yeah I always forget about his islam kink
Oh thank you! I was like, was a local mosque destroyed but everyone was too antimuslim to report it?
No, but after 9/11 New Yorkers freaked out and worked to block a
mosqueIslamic community center from being built. Donald Trump was at the center of the effort.Eventually the effort succeeded, and the organization trying to build the center was pressured to sell the property.
Yeah, that I do remember. Although I’d forgotten it was him. Stupid racist
I wish someone hit that with a plane
Funny how it’s fully jewish architecture
Dome of the rock was built by Christian workers from Constantinople* and ordered to be constructed by muslims, if that is what you are refering too.
*Allegedly, S. Runciman history of the crusades, as i recall.
What’s funny
It actually looks like a mosque imo
It’s intended to. Epstien had some weird stuff going on relating to islam there.
How is it funny? Explain it to me
It’s both hilarious and disturbing that, 25 years later, we still have a significant number of people believing controlled demolition took down the WTC towers and building 7. But then again, it’s been nearly 70 years since the JFK assassination and most people still think Oswald was a patsy 🤷
Conspiracism is like gossip, but on a national level. It’s pure poison. It can lead to anything ranging from destroyed personal relationship and reputations, to the Holocaust (think of the shit said about Jews for centuries leading up to it). We shouldn’t be so blasé about that shit.
And the Epstein case had something 9/11 truth doesn’t: evidence, court-worthy and verifiable evidence. Prosecutable evidence. Undeniable evidence. Show me a bomb-planter who did 9/11 and the paycheque he received for his work from Dubya, and then we can talk. Otherwise, all you have is gossip.
Dubya wasn’t behind it. Who in the heck ever said that?
Thousands of conspiracy theories for 25 years
Being in on it and being behind it are two different things.
I mean is it a coincidence that prior his assassination, Kennedy was trying to derail Israel’s nuclear program? A case could be made to suggest that Israel helped plot the assassination.
You could pick any day in the last 200 years and say that [US President] was trying to [do something to foreign nation]. It means nothing
Yes
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The official story has a few questionable things…
The Pentagon is definitely sus… not only the destruction doesn’t look like a plane hit it… But also how rumsfeld a few days prior talked about missing trillions of dollars
Building 7… Larry Silverstein talking about “pulling” the building…(never mind his incredible timing on insuring the towers against a terrorist attack.
George Bush talked about how he watched the first plane hit the building on TV and he thought what a terrible pilot… But he didn’t have much time to think about it as he had to go talk to some kids in grade school
There’s a lot more I could go on but I won’t
Why is the George W quote (which is new to me, but believable) suspicious? That guy was full of dumb hottakes.
He said he watched the first plane hit the building because the TV was on.
The first plane impact wasn’t televisied until much later
The pentagon doesn’t need any excuse for missing money, they aren’t audited, the missing money is out in the open
Yeah I dont subscribe to the whole controlled demolition thing but there was 100% some very dodgy stuff going on around it.
How did WTC7 burn and collapse when the only thing that hit it that day was a massive skyscraper? 🤔
I thought the Building 7 shit was compelling until I looked up how that building was actually built. Now, I’m surprised it lasted as long as it did
Same honestly I look back at my younger self and I’m embarrassed. I think most of the debunking stuff out there just focuses on the “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” meme.
Concrete rubble can’t melt steel beams
Actually… enough concrete falling at once creates an enormous amount of heat, maybe enough to weaken steel and lower its max capacity.
nice try thermcel but everyone knows you can’t create energy
energy is ONLY created by the GOD ALMIGHTY and engineers are heathens
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Big engineering always wants you to believe their bullshit.
And the act of bending metal generates heat as well.
Big, if true
Worse: true if big.
I wasn’t there
Suspicious thing to say
Inside job!
I used to think that it was a hoax because of WTC7 but I did something that people don’t usually do: challenge my own views and yeah, it was burning for the entire time + rubble hitting it. The steel bar exceeded the containment of concrete causing a structural collapse
Yeah fair fucks to you. I have only one rule for people I keep close to me in my life: I don’t mind if you’re a cunt to me occasionally, because we’re all a cunt occasionally, as long as you go off and reflect on it and good job, you reflected on it.
A structural collapse that’s exactly simultaneous on all sides of the building? lmfao
The nonsense people will eat up to avoid challenging their core worldview is mind boggling.
There’s footage of it, it literally isn’t simultaneous on all sides lmfao. It slumps inward on one side, then a facade collapses, then the rest of it comes down following the already collapsed sides
You can literally just watch video footage lmfao
Look at this goofy structure built over an inadequate foundation (meant for a 25 story building; Building 7 was 40+ stories) and tell me this building didn’t collapse:
Alright now try justifying the Epstein conspiracy
“conspiracy”? it was a full blown criminal enterprise.
You should look up the meaning of conspiracy on a dictionary
It collapsed because it was on fire all day
Bullshit. Don’t lie to me. You think “fire” can just “burn” a building and it will collapse because “gravity”? I bet you believe in other fairy tales too, like public healthcare and the moon
If the moon isn’t real, where does all the cheese come from? Checkmate conspiracy theorists!
Do You believe in cheese? “Cheese” is an edible polymer developed by DuPont in the 50s. Do you believe that the government holds tons of cheese in caves in Missouri? Those are obviously the location of the soundstages used to film the lunar landings.
There was a kid in my class for aviation maintenance who was a genuine flat earther. If you ever pressed him on it he would say “what do you know, you probably think we landed on the moon!”
So sad for him that he never went to the beach. Never watched a ship slip over the horizon. Just depressing.
If the moon was real then how come nobody talked about it before stanley Kubrick made 2001 a space odyssey?
Fun fact, that movie actually came out before 2001. I know, unbelievable!
I don’t think so
yeah there’s a reason there was no moonlandings during the time anyone has actually been alive except for 2001.
Wrong ,we did , read the travel earth to the moon ,from Jules verne
Can you read or even think ? In langue de moliere
Un peu
C’est très bien
It was also smacked by debris from the falling tower that ended up damaging several support trusses and simultaneously igniting like a dozen floors on fire at the same time. Tbh it’s kinda amazing the building lasted as long as it did.
🙄
Ever hear of a little thing called George Bush?
The University of Alaska Fairbanks did a report that concluded that the fire didn’t lead to the collapse
Was it the WTC7 sized chunk of the north tower that fell on top of it?
Crazy how they conspiracied that.
The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.
Peer reviewed?
Theres been so many studies by incredibly reputable people. They aren’t going to believe no matter how much is said. At this point they’re worse than the maga people. Their believing in the lie has cost millions of deaths in the middle east through global imperialism. They dont want that blood on their hands and its finally gone into a war with Iran that will never end. The people who you are asking to tell you the truth wouldnt even tell you that the building was so full of hazardous building materials that it was going to give untold amounts of people cancer.
never forgetti september eletti
Moms spaghetti
Ass is sweaty
Friend’s name? Eddy.
She’s pregnant? No way! Vasectomy!
Ed?
maybe I overlooked it, but the FBI article conveniently “forgot” to mention that
Emad Salem, an FBI informant and a key witness in the trial of Yousef, Abdul Hakim Murad, and Wali Khan Amin Shah, stated that the bomb itself was built under supervision from the FBI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
The FBI is a terrorist organisation?
The CIA definitely is, with how many military coups they’ve backed against democratic South American countries that were considering universal healthcare
Yeah, it was the universal health care threat to US hegemony, not the US projecting their power at any cost.
Not only that, ‘higher up’ rejected the request to use a fake explosive
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sorry i don’t speak cantonese
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What happened with wtc 7? I dont have the deep lore
It had a burning skyscraper fall on top of it. That is generally bad for most buildings.
It was “pulled” (audio recording of him calling it) by Zionist WTC owner Larry Silverstein, with announcement of its destruction press release read on TV with WTC 7 visibly still standing in background image. Most experts believe the operation would need several days of preparation instead of the few hours that took place until a bit past 5pm the same day, and because of this, Silverstein’s $1B asbestos problem that 9/11 solved, could have provided a “backup solution” for the 2 main towers melting beams from jet fuel.
sigh. is there any point to even engage with this comment.
For the lulz
According the an accountant, Building 7 was collecting information about black ops budget items, and it was doing so when it got demo’d during the WTC incidences.
Since we’re all fighting about it, the version of WTC 7 I heard:
Buildings above a certain height tend to have magnesium charges installed, so that in the even of catastrophe (like say two hijacked airplanes), they can be brought down in a controlled manner with as little collateral as possible. I’ve heard WTC 7 was accidentally wired up alongside the twin towers, so when the call was made, it came down as well.
Is that true? No fucking clue.
No, Building 7 was just poorly designed. I used to find it a compelling point, then I actually read about how poorly thought out it was. They built a 40+ story building on a foundation meant for 25 stories, it’s surprising it lasted as long as it did.
No, it’s not true. You wouldn’t ever use magnesium for that anyways, you’d use an actual demolition charge if you were dumb enough to rig every tall building with explosives. But no, nobody is that dumb - the kernel of truth at the heart of that one is that some large buildings have demolition plans drawn up when they’re constructed (important note: the WTC didn’t have that, it’s both very rare to do and a much more modern practice than the WTC buildings), which are just a reference for if/when the building is demo’d in the future. They’re not rigged to blow, though. Hell, aside from all the obvious reasons you wouldn’t do that, chemically most explosives would become uselessly unpredictable after being strapped onto a building for that long. Just an absurd idea.
Like a system like the swiss bridges? They have marked points but don’t just leave the charges on the bridge. It flies in the face of conventional engineering to plan a failure point on something that should never fail. So all building are wired to go at any moment? You would think there would be a few more accidents and this would require a large and obvious agency to manage and monitor in secret. Considering how much demolition work costs it is not “easy” to bring a building down.
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