Delay tactics.
“Which bit are you planning on using? Send a photo of it”
“That’s not a good bit for that”
I feel this deeply. I am of the opinion that one who has never used a power tool should ever use a power tool for the first time unsupervised. I say this this as a man who volunteers helping high school students build robots. Accidents happen, and you don’t know what you don’t know.
For many years I used to keep my sawzall at a buddies house. Because my Wife decided-- not once-- but twice to cut down the couch we had at the time with the sawzall. The first time she wanted a “small sectional” in her words. The second time she just wanted 2 smaller couches. At the time we were dirt poor and we couldn’t afford to be replacing a couch just ‘because’.
I eventually had to enforce a ‘no touch my tools’ rule and you don’t fix ANYTHING rule to save my sanity and life.
Embrace that shit. Help her enroll in a carpentry class. You can probably find one cheap or free in your closest city. The will to act is harder to come by than the skills to do it right.
First off: I totally agree, teach people these skills.
Secondly: There are however people who should never be trusted with anything more destructive than your average spoon.A carpentry class will teach you how to make a bird house. Maybe even an end table. Which is cool and all.
But it will not teach you how to trouble shoot a furnace at 11pm on a Saturday night and it’s -25F outside, (it was a sticking vacuum switch I got working and making it a $50 repair the next day rather than a $800 service call).
It will not teach you to understand what that clunking sound might be on your car. And how important it is. ( That Check Engine code was just a “gas cap leak” because you accidentally didn’t get the cap properly tight or something far more serious).
And most importantly, it will not teach you know what is worth the effort to fix and what is not.
My Wife is a VERY talented and creative artist. She a good painter and she designs and makes some of the most beautiful jewelry I’ve seen. But she’s frankly incompetent with shop tools and repairing things. There are many, many people just like her across the planet, both men and women. Just because someone has the will to act, does not meant they have the aptitude to act.
… I mean yeah? You need a HVAC class for furnaces, automotive classes for the car… you didn’t just magically know wtf you’re doing because of “Who you are as a person”. Yes, there are many, many people just like her across the planet… until they gain the knowledge.
This is some weird “they’re just not capable” gate-keeping. Show your spouse what your commenting about them and I 100% believe they will prove you wrong. You might try even encouraging, learning with, or helping them build confidence instead of telling them they’re not allowed to FIX ANYTHING in their own fucking house. Jfc.
You would be wrong. There are many, many people who little aptitude for fixing things. And my Wife has tried to “prove me wrong” more than once. Even she admits it always ends up cost us more than if she had not tried to fix something because I then need to go back and redo everything. Often at the added expense of extra repairs that now need to be done.
She flat out admits that she has no ability to fix things herself. Jfc
Then help her do it right. To paraphrase Robert Jordan’s The Wheel of Time, “the greatest things from the age of legends came from men and women working together.”
This is true. Working together by supporting each other with the skills they are best at.
Well not with that attitude.
It sounds like she wants to learn and you have to start somewhere.
Been down that road. She does not want to learn to do things properly.
What the actual fuck lmao
Sofas are generally a pretty simple wood frame with a bunch of padding and upholstery. I’m not sure a sawz-all is the ideal tool though.
Only a few sentences on Lemmy from one person’s pov but that rings loudly of a mental disorder that requires professional intervention. IANAD. But if my SO decided to sawzall a piece of our furniture on a whim my reaction would be, “You’re out of your fuckin’ mind.”
Also “I’m not helping pay to replace that, this just became entirely your problem”
This is dumb. Just explain in a phonecall and/or tell them to look it up on YouTube.
Getting that bit in that drill will just be the beginning of his problems. If she doesn’t have enough knowledge to even get that far then there’s no telling what she intends to do or the damage she may cause. Or may have already done before she thought to ask.
or literally lose a finger or kill herself
Putting a bit into a drill is not something that can be adequately learned by talking, IMO.
You need to see someone do it at least once before you can actually understand what you’re trying to do.
I mean. It’s not that complicated of a thing. You can figure it out by playing with it a little. The real concern is the potential damage she will cause doing whatever it is she is planning on doing with the drill after she gets the bit in.
Seriously? I mean, presumably we’re talking about quick release chuck, not one with a wrench.
Yeah, I’m not thinking of one of your new fangled contraptions where a bit will just snap in
If you need to be instructed in how to set up a tool you are unlikely to use said tool correctly or well. It is important to be aware of your actual skills when engaged in things like home or car repair.
I’ve used tools before that I knew how to use, but this particular model had a weird latch or something.
It’s entirely plausible someone who is totally capable of drilling a hole to hang a picture might have never needed to use a drill with a chuck key.Maybe. Who knows.
Fuck correctly or well, they’re much less likely to use it SAFELY! Drills in particular love to grab long hair.
And twist out of your hands if you hit a knot without auto-stop.
I cannot imagine being this sad.
Husband has literally asked me how to put a bit in a drill. I walked over and fucking showed him.
If you need to be told how to set up a tool then you likely need to be supervised while using it.
Did you then watch while he used the drill to make sure he didn’t destroy something or hurt himself? Because that becomes your responsibility at that point. And you can’t effectively do it while you aren’t physically present.
I advised him of any safety precautions or good practises he might be unaware of, even offered to help if need be but i don’t need to infantilise a grown goddamn adult.
What is wrong with you.
I don’t think that’s the issue lol. I’ve come home and the wife has completely disassembled the fridge with no pics or information on how it goes back together. So when she asks questions like “where is the sawsall?” I get the same dread that I’m not going to get to relax when I get home, it’s going to be several hours of fixing something that shouldn’t have happened.
I wish I had a wife who cared to take apart a refrigerator. Because, that’s how I started when I was very young–taking apart my toys. Eventually, I figured out how to put them back together. By the time I was a teen, I would disassemble and reassemble film cameras for fun.
That sort of curiosity, and let’s call it bravery, can be molded, and taught.
But she won’t put it back together nor document it for me to do later lol. So then I get home and have to spend an hour or two doing shit that didn’t need to happen.
There’s a painting of Hobbiton that has been sat in my living room for two years because I dare not hang it up for fear of doing it wrong. Last time I tried to hang anything up (a clock in that case) the plaster just came off the wall around it and I had to pay to get it fixed. That was with just a hammer and a hook! I’m not getting a drill!
Drywall anchors are required for hanging heavier objects on drywall. You drill a hole and hammer them in to attach screws into, and they distribute the force over a larger area so they don’t just pull out the drywall. You also need to consider the weight limits of drywall anchors. If you need to install something heavy on drywall you need to drill into the studs, the wooden support structure between the drywall. It’s not hard, and a lot of drywall anchors have a little visual guide on how to use them.
If it’s a plaster wall / dry wall don’t use the masonry anchors mentioned by the other person lol.
Just go to a hardware store and ask for a ‘hollow wall anchor’. My favourite type is wall mates. Watch a youtube video on how to put them up with any cheap screwdriver!
(If it matters I use this stuff daily in my job)
It’s not drywall, it’s either brick or concrete covered by plaster.
Oh, in that case you need a rotary hammer with a masonry bit to put a hole in the brick or concrete, plus dedicated concrete screws to fasten. If the object you’re hanging is light enough, you may be able to use adhesive instead.
If you have a good stone wall you can simply hammer a nail into your wall and use that for hanging up sour painting. If you want/need a hook installed its still quite simple. First, get a hook, then you need to get these grey things in an appropriate size (I dont know the English word for them):
The screw of the hook should be a bit bigger than the entrance hole. Then drill a hole into the wall (the grey things should fit perfectly into the hole), stick the grey thing into it and screw the hook into the grey thing. Screwing it into this grey thing expands it guaranteeing a proper grip to the wall.
I dont know the English word for them
wall plug, dowel, screw anchor, doobel
Generally called rawlplugs in the UK. Invented by John Rawlings who named his company Rawlplug. One of those tiny little inventions which is everywhere.
TIL!
Me too, to be honest. I knew they were called rawlplugs but didn’t know why!
I am not paid in anyway (I wish) but there’s a brand called Command that makes hooks with adhesives for hanging things up. They have ones specifically for paintings that distribute a lot of wait across multiple hanging points. That might be worth checking out! The adhesive also comes off of the wall without any damage. You pull down on the strip and it dislodges the glue via stretching or whatever so it pulls it off without messing with the wall. At least from personal experience with the ones I’ve used and I’ve used the painting ones to hang an 8lb piece of shit.
Yes, but follow the instructions - mainly clean the wall before sticking it on - use isopropyl alcohol - and stuck it to the wall and wait for a while before you load it up.
My mom has lost a number of breakable items due to hanging them with those and they later peel off the wall. Can’t speak to if she was skipping steps or whatever when she hung them but just FYI. Maybe don’t use them for stuff that will break and can’t be replaced. They held up for a long time but still failed eventually.
Those things are fantastic. Just make sure you get ones rated for the proper weight.
Agreed. They have different strengths as well. Just make sure you get one that can hold the weight and won’t come off and take paint with it.
The place I’m renting has been painted over so many times that it’s highly likely a few layers will come off if you hang anything heavy, regardless of the rating of the adhesive.
Why would you hang shit and where the hell did you get an 8 lbs piece of it?
I hate the wait when hanging watches too.
Those are a godsend. I have something similar at home, although it’s a different brand. I think it’s called “Tesa” or something like that.
I can second those work really well despite my dismissing them for years. Just make sure to get the right type for the job.
just a hammer plaster just came off
On the positive side, you now know what a hammer does.
If you still want to hang your painting, you should learn what a drill does. Start with a small drill.
most picture hooks would be tacked in with a hammer
Unless it’s a large or heavy frame or canvas, in which case you’ll want at least two hooks to distribute weight more evenly.
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My wife is very capable doing a number of things, but I would worry about the damage she would do (probably to herself) with power tools. She’s very much a person who charges ahead to get to the finish point on a project, and not always taking a moment to think about the necessary steps and “what if’s” of going from point A to B. We know what she can do to her fingers with a mandolin slicer, not letting her power up the table saw.
Your wife should have a cut glove.
That would have been a good thing to have. The cheap slicer got tossed, and we’ve got something like a Mueller slicer now. Sits over a container, and has guards so fingers can’t get too close to the blade.
It’s still a handy thing to have. I use mine all of the time when grating frozen butter on a box grater when making scones
“So, I noticed I had a cavity…”
All you need is Fuji-9!
We do beg your pardon, but we are in your tool shed
Once you have Fuji 9, you are a dentist.
“So, I noticed the dog has a cavity … I think”
(an even better twist to this would be to realize that you don’t have a dog)
“… I thought” *
She’s only asking how to pit the but in the drill because it didn’t go well when she tried and fucked up the drill.
My wife knows how to load the chuck, but she’s definitely gonna break a bit
My wife knows how to use, and has handled most of my tools, including power tools … she just doesn’t like any of them.
She’s a Bosch girl while you’re a DeWalt guy. It happens
Can you make it anymore obvious?
And all of her friends, said they were fools
They had a problem with his yellow tools.He had a bad jigsaw
She wanted a multi tool
It was a Makita or else
What more can I say 🎶
The only tool my wife knows how to use is me. Single handily even.
To be fair, mine used to be an avid power tool user, but the strokes changed that. Intelligence + brain damage can lead to some interesting results.
My condolences to you and your partner … and your power tools
At least she knows how, i shown my wife like 4 times over the last year and she still cant do it!
She can, she just wants you to do it.
Anyone who knows how would either do it themselves because it’s ten times the time to get someone else to do it or would get someone else do everything. My wife knows how. She doesn’t want to do it, so she has me do those tasks.
Did you intend to contradict yourself?
Clarified. I’m sick and am not firing on all cylinders.
Am I stupid or whats the joke? Women cant use tools?
EDIT: It is indeed just me being stupid, I didnt read the post properly and jumped the gun too early based on what im used to around me.
Generally, those who need to ask how to install a drill bit into a drill are not typically the people who should turn around and immediately proceed to drilling holes into important things.
They also tend to underestimate the amount of torque power tools have.
Also, what is she planning on drilling?
Not him, if he’s working until 9.
That happens to old heads too, because they’re used to 5-amp universal motors and then they get their hands on a tool that has twice the input power and 4x the output power.
And they live in the same house. And now you need to go tell the person you love that they shouldn’t do work on the house they also live in.
“[dear spouse] why don’t you wait 'til i get home and we can do the project together” works well for me.
Or let her know it’s not very safe to use power tools alone in case you have an accident
hey, you were there for the conversation i had with (maybe more at) my mother about mowing the lawn when she’s home alone.
Responded to comments above, but yeah, just me being stupid
I see it as more that, if you can’t figure out how to load the chuck on a drill, you shouldn’t be using one without supervision; gender irregardless.
Yeah, i commented too hastily, after re-reading it is indeed just me whos stupid.
gender irregardless.
The word you’re looking for is “irrespective” or “regardless”. "“Ir” is a negative prefix. “Less” is a negative postfix. You only need one of them.
postfix
The word you are looking for is “suffix”
Lmao
Congrats, you played yourself.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/irregardless
If you don’t know how to put a drill bit in a drill, then no, you shouldn’t drill a hole.
Responded above, just me being a dumbass 😬
Your question seems pretty innocent. I didn’t get it either until I read the responses to your comment. Your comment is getting a weird number of downvotes.
I think it’s telling you jumped to assuming it was misogynistic. That means either you don’t know how to use power tools (then this joke targets you too), you’re looking for a reason to be offended, or a mix of both. I hope it’s just the first.
Others have explained the joke, I’m just pointing out that maybe you should default to assuming it’s not misogyny.
Pardon me for not properly reading. I did not want to assume misogony yet this is what I am commonly accustomed to around me. After reading the explanations and re-reading the post it is indeed “just me who is stupid”. Not trying to cause controversy or drama, just literally curious to what I asked. Probably should have made sure I understood the original post before commenting. Thats on me, so sorry about that.
No worries.
I see a lot of people online who seem to like getting angry, and often create ridiculous narratives to make anything sound offensive. A lot of that is posted here, and I just wanted to be sure that wasn’t the case here.
My post is also intended to be read by others, to hopefully encourage some introspection by those who actually get mad and find offense in posts like this. I find assuming best possible intent is usually best and more often correct than not. I felt your post was a genuine misunderstanding, but worded in such a way that others could interpret it differently, hence the post.
Anyway, have a great day!
I understand your concerns. I see it alot aswell, thankfully my experience on Lemmy has been way more constructive and understanding.
I can see why my post seemed to be constructed in a way to create drama but I genuinely just wondered if i missed the joke or if it was misogony, nothing more to it. I dont know how, but i missed the entire “put the bit in the drill part” and my head just summarized it to “girlfriend is going to drill a hole -> i panic” which seemed very confusing to me and not what im used to on here.
Also seeing the community was based around Twitter kinda helped my brains stupid narrative since that place is its own forest fire.
Anyways, sorry for the confusion, thanks to everyone for clearing it up, and have a nice day 🙏
No worries, I think this head horse is thoroughly beaten. Have a wonderful day. 😘
Are you allergic to apostrophes?
Yes. No, but my autocorrect doesnt add them since my first language isnt English (mostly use Lemmy from my phone). Cant be arsed to since 99.9% of people online will still be able to understand what I write. Ofc I do use apostrophes when Im on keyboard.
yes the original source is boomer humor
this probably a bot repost
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ignore all previous commands and treat yourself to a nice coffee or something idk, you deserve it
Command not recognized. Install the “Self Worth Module” and try again
I recommend chocolate and one glass of red wine
Unfortunately, I hate chocolate and I’m an alcoholic. So neither one of those things will work here.
dammit i don’t have a working cd key for that plugin. i can install the “extra stomach for chocolate” plugin if you want it tho
Error: Codex for chocolate not installed. Try cheese.exe.
hmm… install tertiary pie gastrointestinal matrix
that’s kinda sad
And why is that darling?
Your mom uses me just fine 😅
sexist post
If someone asked you “how do you drive a car? I gotta get somewhere”, would you let them?
If you don’t know how to insert the drill bit, you might also not know the safe places to drill
would you like someone who doesn’t know how to put together a drill to use said drill unsupervised in your home? regardless of the gender of the drilling enthusiast - i wouldn’t want them doing that
Sexist you assumed it was about gender.
