Except both CXMT is ramping up and at the same time datacenters buildouts are slowing. Supply is going up and demand is dropping. It’s economics 101.

Hell that’s better than we get right now.

Correct, and another reason why it’s complex. If it was trained on it that’s bad, but if the user didn’t do the training does that mean what they are doing is okay if it helps them? Or is it bad because of the source? It’s a whole can of worms that we won’t be able to come to a concensus here, too many grey areas.

Company that has a vested interest in keeping prices high says prices will remain high. Yeah, I’m not going to trust that source.

Yeah no idea personally, definitely something I’m not qualified to answer.

Of course, as someone who grew up in a family of strong guilt trippers, I empathize and know the path you’re probably on. It will take a fair amount of personal growth, but you’ll get there. That’s why I know there is no end state for who a good son is, because I tried for 25 years to be a “good son”, and surprise no matter what I did it always seemed like there was something more. To give an idea, I paid off my mother’s debts, I paid off her car, I took her on trips, I set up her retirement, and she still guilts me on that I should be doing more. It was only a couple years ago that I finally realized that the dreamed “You are a good son, I love you, thank you for everything you do for me” is never going to come. That hit very hard, and it makes me sad typing it now even, but it’s never coming.

Don’t we all have those what if questions? Maybe I ask because I’m myself unfulfilled with some parts of my life.

Absolutely, and that’s why I so strongly call it out. That the reasons why you chose one path over another should be your decision. No one else is going to choose the path that’s best for you, only you can do that. If you let others dictate what you should do then you’ll never truly be on your own true path, and you will regret it later.

I wish you all the luck. I’m always available to vent to, been through this myself.

I was literally going to figure out how to fork and compile it myself if it was forced

I heard there is a theory from therapists that being able to create that content can help quell urges, and so we should allow it if it protects real kids, vile as it is. However others argue it could cause it cause more to cause harm.

Either way, the decision is well above my ability to decide, and while I would hope actual professionals would have a say, unfortunately it’s going to be a political thing. Pandoras box is wide open though.

Maps are political. Their accuracy is only defined by politics. According to the us gov, that is now accurate. If you von into canada it also shows as accurate.

Eh I don’t think it would. The vast majority of American’s don’t care, or eyeroll. The blame right now isn’t on google, it’s on the one who signed the order. Those who do care are a very small minority. So maybe Google gets a bit of PR? But they also piss off the white house, and valiant or not we’ve seen how petty they can be there.

No, that’s not what I said, I said they’re picking their battles, and I didn’t offer any reason or justification for why. You can do that if you choose, but I’m not going to go off and do errands to prove a point I wasn’t making.

Thanks for checking! Yup makes sense. In that case I see it purely as they flipped it in the US, it’s not their fight to have.

They’re picking their battles. They could go against this, but what would they win? Mild PR from users? They have a lot more to lose. I have no love for google but this was never going to be a fight they were going to make.

Guaranteed is. This is not new to Google, they have disputed territories, disputed names, they have gone through this before. This is just Americans seeing it for the first time. Google probably has an admin page that let’s them set it up without ever needing an engineer anymore. If you’re within this polygon you see this line, else you see the line over there. The alternative is they get sued/shut down in that country/ etc. While I have no love for Google, this is simply them picking their battles.

I’m just going to play devil’s advocate because it was essentially mandated that they change it. What does google say outside of the US though? If they changed it for Canadians or non-US, then absolutely they deserve all the pitchforks. If it’s just in US, well, we shouldn’t be mad at them for this one.

That’s how I see it too. Look, it’s here, at the very minimum it’s going to be around for a while, and while you don’t have to personally use it, every company hiring is going to expect you to use it. It’s on you to decide how much and to what extent.

Burying heads in the sand and pounding fists isn’t going to close Pandoras box. All it will do is make you personally less employable.

So find a way to use it in a way that works for you, and importantly learn what it’s not good at, because boy howdy are there things it isn’t good at. Then you can advocate for or against it with the knowledge, and hopefully keep your job too.

Aw man I had my pitchfork and everything

Mayor wants flags lowered when they die, and want to make sure it’ll be special for them.

Right? Not a hard question. UPS could do it.

I also want to live my life but where I grew up, small town in GA, the expectation seems to be I move in with my parents to physically take care of them, otherwise I’m not a good son.

Oh man, okay so I feel this so hard. I have felt that guilt put on my shoulders and I’ve seen friends and family have that guilt put on theirs. You will need to choose your own path but I’ll say that you will be the only one who cares about your life path.

My friend moved to a place ~500 miles away from home and loved it, was happy to be there. His mother refused to visit. Old world “A mother shouldn’t visit her son, her son should respect her and come visit”. So he did. Then she guilted him into moving back home, giving up opportunities farther away. He is happy in the sense that he’s married and has kids and a fulfilling life, but he will always have the what if questions. What if his now wife and him had stayed, what if they had done this or that. I promise you, if you let them drive your life you will never be truly fulfilled.

Which is what drives my question. If they need assistance in the future, why couldn’t they move to where you are? Because every reason they could give could be equally flipped to you. “We have friends here”. “We have a house here”. “We like it here”. All of those you could say about where you are too. So if you are happy where you are and they need care why couldn’t they come to you?

The funny thing about people who think about things like “good son” or “good <familymember>” is that you will never do enough to appease them. Ever. You will need to grapple with this. You can move home. You can give them spongebaths. You can tuck them in at night and help them go to the bathroom. You will never be a “good son” if you aren’t now - because you are a good son. Just by thinking about this you are a good son. Their expectations of what a “good son” however non-commital and will always change, proven just with the guilt. The sooner you accept that their expectations of a “good son” will never be met, the sooner you can think more practically about how you want to proceed with life.

I had to go to therapy to realize how much guilt there was in my family, and learn some techniques on how to combat it. The most effective one is simply to call it out. They pull that “Well you’re just so far away” or “I wish you lived closer” you just gotta call that out, right there, on the spot. That shit breeds with repression, just letting it get away. “You’re just so far away” -> “You’re always welcome to visit”. “I wish you lived closer” -> “I wish you lived closer to me too!”. Put it right back out there. I’ve just also done the “Mom I’m not doing the guilt trip today. Your feelings are your own, I’m happy where I live and if you have a problem with it that’s your problem to work on, not mine”.

So, I’m sorry for the wall of text, but that last line needs to be called out. You are a good son. There are no expectations that you must give up your life to take care of them. If they didn’t plan ahead for life and expected you to come home, that’s their problem, not yours. Of course help where you feel comfortable, but it should be because you want to and it fits in your life, not because they expect it.