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The Picard Maneuver@piefed.world to linuxmemes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 hours ago

My hot take on the official pronunciation of GNOME

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The Picard Maneuver@piefed.world to linuxmemes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 hours ago
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  • wer2@lemmy.zip
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    I thought it was foot for a long time.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      I thought it was KDE

  • Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world
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    It’s pronounced gee-nome, right?

    • Peffse@lemmy.world
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      Image

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      G-gnome

  • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
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    Meanwhile, me, a non-native English speaker:

  • oni ᓚᘏᗢ@lemmy.world
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    ñom

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    Every time i hit that pronunciation my brain flies straight to G’home g’nomes

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    If it makes anyone feel better, I watched a coworker write “sequel” in her notes while I was talking about SQL.

    • QuazarOmega@lemy.lol
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      That’s actually cute, sometimes I wish I were innocent to the abomination of squeal

    • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I pronounce it sqill

  • chunes@lemmy.world
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    That’s the whole gimmick behind GNU projects… You pronounce the G. Because that’s how you pronounce GNU.

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      Nah I just say gnu

  • Schiffsmädchenjunge@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    I use KDE because I never want to have to worry about how to pronounce it. There is no ambiguity with KDE, it’s just K D E

    • Sunoc@sh.itjust.works
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      Guess I’ll pronounce it Kh Duh from now on!

    • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
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      I am still thoroughly confused whether I should call it KDE or Plasma or Plasma Desktop. Like, what is the difference?

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        KDE is the author, Plasma is the application. There is ambiguity since they don’t make more than one desktop environment - so all are good.

    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml
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      It’s pronounced kiddy.

      Just KDEing…

      • billwashere@lemmy.world
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        My wife works at a bakery that uses an ordering system called FreshKDS (kitchen display system in case you’re wondering). She always calls it fresh kids.

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          I don’t see that backfiring for someone who isn’t in the know.

      • IndridCold@lemmy.ca
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        We pronounce it Katie.

    • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz
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      And it isn’t a tablet ui.

    • GunnarGrop@lemmy.ml
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      I use, and love, KDE, but this is not one of the reasons I use it… What

  • _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I pronounce it nom just to annoy everyone :3

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    We native speakers of German intuitively pronounce an audible “g” followed by an audible “n” when reading “GNOME” and find it weird that the ordinary word “gnome” is pronounced with a silent “g” in English. The cognate in our first language is “Gnom”, pronounced with two consonants in the beginning, like the desktop environment.

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    I think the real reason it’s pronounced Guh-nome, is because silent letters in acronyms.

    It’s similar to the reason why SQL sounds like ess-cue-ell instead of a version of he word sickle that sounds like there was a submarine imploding in your mouth.
    Singular letters are important in acronyms and always pronounced distinctively. And if they’re vocally strung together, that’s still distinctive.

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      I’ve always heard SQL pronounced as “sequel.”

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        I am a self-taught CS guy, I and many others who didn’t hear it spoken default to “ess-cue-el”

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      Three letter acronyms are the most I am willing to pronounce separately. More than that - if it doesn’t have an obvious correct pronounciation, maybe the author should’ve used their brain instead of some dumb not so straightforward pronounciation.

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    People who say guh -nome are the same sick psychos who pronounce GIF “Jiff”.

    • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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      That format was a gift to the world.

      • ngdev@lemmy.zip
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        a gigantic and gargantuan achievement that enabled memes that make you giddy when you get the gist of their jokes

        but yeah who cares what the dude says, language evolves and its pronounced gif now

    • QuazarOmega@lemy.lol
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      Knice to meat you

      • Sunoc@sh.itjust.works
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        Found the KDE user!

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      So all French people

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        French people are definitely psychos so that makes sense

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      As a non-native english speaker who thought I had finally grasped the english language can confirm I, in fact, hadn’t (I pronounce gnome as “guhnome” also as in “garden guhnome”, I had no idea)

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      or Jiraffe, Giraffe.

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    You just got gnomed!

    • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      was looking exactly for this

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    this is like the dude who invented GIF thinking everyone was going to call it “jiff”. it ain’t happening, broski.

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      It’s pronounced gif

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      The G stands for Jraphics

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        Welcome to… Jraphic Park!

      • monogram@feddit.nl
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        jay-pheg

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          It’s pronounced gay-peg /jk

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          It’s pronounced “emm-preg.”

          • neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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            Am I… Mpegante? Mpegananat?

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              Thank you, I needed this comment.

              Rough day.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              mpeg is now prounounced:

              plap plap plap preganante

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        The format was originally designed to interchange animated palettised depictions of giraffes, so Giraffic Interchange Format made sense. They just changed the acronym when they realised that by storing different colours in the palette, you could depict things other than giraffes.

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          Giraffic Interchange Format made sense

          In no world does that collection of words ring true, regardless of context.

          you could depict things other than giraffes

          But why would you?

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            GPUs were originally created to render giraffes faster, hence the name. The fact that they’re also useful for gaming are as coincidental as their usefulness for crypto mining and LLMs.

            A gif is just the output format after running loads of OpenGiraffeLib code through a GPU.

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        Yeah, just like the U stands for oonderwater in SCUBA, or the P stands for potographics in JPG!

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        That or Giraffe Interchange Format

        • neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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          This should be part of ISO

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        say the letters individually. Then do it again faster. Then again faster still. Once it becomes a single syllable instead of three, then you will have arrived at the correct pronunciation.

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          I dare you to try this with every other acronym

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            why?

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              Because it will show you the error with your argument: Your approach to pronouncing acronyms is likely not consistent with the method you’re describing here.

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                I’m not applying my argument to other acronyms though, I’m applying it to the .gif file extension.

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      What about HiFi though? The Fi comes from fidelity, yet it’s pronounced like the fi in finite.
      English is weird

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      What? The creator of GIF has made it very clear it is not pronounced Jiff.

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      I have always pronounced git as get (mostly because of accent) bit I watched a video the other day, and they pronounced it as Jit and my whole world fell apart. Was I pronouncing it wrong? Are they dumb? Was this secretly a gif jiff issue?

      • Cousin Mose@lemmy.hogru.ch
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        I have to deal with rej-ex (regex) and red-diss (Redis) at work a lot.

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          How’s Redis pronounced?

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      https://youtu.be/bmqy-Sp0txY

      ZHAIF 4 LAIF!

      :)

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        I miss Idea Channel a lot.

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          Yeah… I always made sure I had some Idea Channel, VSauce, and Veritasium on tap whenever possible. The latter is the only one that really still does it’s thing… and even that’s getting a little sus these days with Derek promoting general “ai” usage. :/

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      It is called jiff tho?

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        yes, the J comes from Jraphics

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          Giraffes in shambles

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          alright start saying jfeg

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            jpej

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            Well, it’s not the P that’s read like an F, it’s PH that’s read like an F. If it was jpheg it would be read jfeg.

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              Idk why you’re being downvoted, jfeg makes 0 sense

              • gon [he]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                I have a very negative aura about myself.

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          To be fair once you make a word from an acronym, it doesn’t really matter what the pronunciation of the individual words was.

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        Jif is a peanut butter brand

        • smeg@feddit.uk
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          Mmm, creamy

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            Maximum cleaning

            Minimum scrubbing

            I’ll never have to buy toilet paper again!

            Edit: Also, I like the taste of citrus so that’s nice too!

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        not any more than gnome is called guh-nome.

    • CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Hey, not everyone was born to be a king.

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      Except of course we did then and we do now. Too bad none of you ever looked at how G can be pronounced.

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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        I understand that the letter G can make that sound. I am still saying, however, that the overwhelming vast majority of people pronounce it “gif” as in gift, and not “jiff” as in we’re not calling it that. stomp your feet as you will, it’s not gonna change anything.

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          No the overwhelming majority of kids think its pronounced that way. The majority of us who were around when it was written know how its pronounced. How do we know? We know because the guy who wrote it told us.

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            I first heard it in pronounced “jif” from a guy in my college dorm in the mid 90s. I’ve just pronounced it that way every since. Is it there a generation gap in how it’s pronounced? I do catch some flak from my kids about how I pronounce it.

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              Sometime around 2010 was the first time I encountered someone who was foaming at the mouth certain about how I was saying it wrong. Considering by that time I had know about the file format for twenty years I dismissed their error. Its really funny watching all these people making fools out of themselves in defense of getting it wrong. The very first article I read about the format specifically showed the pronunciation. All in all I think its stupid how they will not or can not accept they got it wrong. Instead they call me a boomer or make some lame argument that the author and the company that came up with it. The company that owned it don’t get to decide what to call it. I dive in every time this comes up as its entertaining watching all these ‘fetuses’ get it wrong.

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            I was around before gifs even existed. No one I knew ever pronounced it jif. It was always like gift. In fact, I never even heard any question of how it was pronounced well into the use of gifs.

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              I was around before they existed as well. I remember reading a article about the new format and dialing into CompuServe in 1988 and downloading the first compiler and decoders for it. I remember how the article specifically showed the pronunciation. I know I say it correctly as the author and unisys intended. I remember when unisys was butthurt in 94 and tried to charge the whole world wide web for it and how that failed. I remember it all so it doesn’t matter if you or anyone else got it wrong.

              I didn’t.

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            Yeah ok boomer 😂

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              Okay Fetus but

              Nope, try again.

  • Cevilia (she/they/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    If they’d wanted us to call Itchio Itch, they shouldn’t have called it Itchio.

    Similarly, if they’d wanted us to call Gnome Ganome, they shouldn’t have called it Gnome.

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      Maybe English should just get rid of the stupid “the first consonant is silent when two consonants form the beginning of a word” rule tbf.

      It’s a skill issue to mispronounce loan words (like gnome, pterodactyl or psychology).

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        Snail, small, three, press, change. I could keep going.

        I’ve never heard of that rule. There are a few combos that are basically always that way though: pt, gn, and kn come to mind.

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        English is a mix and match of a bunch of other languages

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        English is a hideous mongrel of a language.

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          I was already an adult when I learned that “salmon” is supposed to be pronounced as “sammon”.

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            Thanks for the painful laugh, Gugulethu

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        If you don’t pronounce the p in pterodactyl or psychiatrist then lose my number

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          If I start pronouncing them, can I get your number?

          • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
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            You just want to see the pretty bunnies, won’t you?

            • Leonixster@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Who wouldn’t

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