• brap@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Floppys were the ultimate in security because if you looked at them wrong they become corrupted.

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      23 hours ago

      You must have started using them at the tail end of their life when stuff got cheaper including the drives.

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      3 days ago

      But the slide is so fun to fiddle with! Click clack click clack, why doesn’t Commander Keen run anymore!?!

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      I had to use floppies to bring my programming assignments to university in early 2000s. They were so unreliable, I had a rule to copy every assignment on at least 3 drives. I’ve asked them many times to setup an FTP, so students would not have to struggle, but they would not listen.

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        That’s funny yet odd. I use floppy disk still to this day for my 200aml cnc plasma table. It’s the easiest method to load the gcode on. The rs232 is to much of a p.i.a. I used to have an issue when I used a USB floppy drive into my laptop. I ended up finding a pc with a dedicated floppy drive since then. I’ve had zero issues. Wich is also more surprising that floppy disks even work around the big ass high voltage transformer for the plasma power source. The big servo motor drives and the welders in the shop.

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        I remember taking my first GIS course and having to buy ZIP discs for each project around that time. That ended up being an expensive class.

        Also, the lab PCs re-imaged every time they shut down, so if the PC crashed you had no way to recover the data if you hadn’t written it to the zip drive, which we usually only did at the end of the day because they were slow.

        We basically had a revolt to get the university to unlock the USB ports for us to use those fancy new flash drives the next year.

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      3 days ago

      What kind of sense is there in storing your floppies with the shutter at the top?

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        Less chance of dust and debris falling between the shutter and the rest of the disk. Plus, that was just naturally the top of the device when you pick it up. It’s easier ergonomics to pick the floppy up from the sides and feed the top into the drive. Also the shutter did stick up a little bit, so if you placed them shutter down they can wobble and buzz in the container with slight vibrations (like say, from a computer sitting next to them). Bottom down makes it more likely that the shutter will get damaged or scoop material into the disk when moving them.

        We also just kinda did it that way.

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          Do not cite the Deep Magic to me! I was there when it was written!

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          There were supposed to be labels on them. That was half the fun if opening a new floppy. And a solid third of them would have been erased AOL disks.

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      Also if you took the key out, it wouldn’t have started.

      Actually, I guess it depended on what kind of key it was, some cases had locks for opening them, others had the locks wired into the mobo and it wouldn’t start unless the key shorted the connection. Or you could open it up and hot wire the computer lol.

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    For some reason I have never seen one of those where the spare key was not attached to the primary key 🤔

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      That’s because all of the other instances had the keys get lost and the owners had to break them open and buy new diskette cases.

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      Sometimes it’s about not wanting it stolen physically.

      But then again this whole box is small enough to just carry off so I dunno.

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      I remember downloading games from sketchy Warez sites on the school computers because they had a T1 line and I had dialup. They’d come in Floppy-sized segments; I’d go home each day with a stack of 10-15 floppies, copy the segment to my drive, delete it from the disk, and go back the next day to collect more. It would take weeks to get a whole game, and that’s only if the warez site didn’t disappear before I finished collecting parts. Then there was the butt clencher moment when I’d try to unpack the whole thing and see if it actually worked or not which, most of the time, it did not.

      Those were the days.

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        ah man I remember unzipping 50 part rar files only to find another 50 part zip files inside. All because of some IRC file size limit or something.

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        I bought a first gen zip drive for home because the school had one PC with one and I wanted to avoid the floppy fest lmao.

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        We’ve already got the technology to remake them as SSDs too. SATA drives are small and light enough, and eSATA is removable, possibly hot swappable. We’ve been able to eject optical discs with software for decades. A physically small drive inside a floppy shaped caddy wouldn’t take much work, and could be much faster than flash memory based drives.

        I don’t know enough about nvme drives, but they could be even better again :)

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          NVME drives are already very thin, probably you can remove the shell and put them inside a floppy one…i want a floppy SSD so bad now

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        3 days ago

        I recently bought 20 floppies from diskduper and man they are fun to hold, very tactile. Much lighter than I remembered too.

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          I recall a Win95 installation involving on the order of 20 diskettes.

          I never purchased or manually installed MicroSlop Office prior to the advent of fully administrated local area networks, so from such specific pain I was spared

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            I already had my first CD-ROM drive (so futuristic!) when 95 came out. But I did install Office on Win3.1 from floppies. Soon after that I switched to OpenOffice and haven’t used commercial software (other than the Windows that came with the PC) ever since.

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              I could be wrong, but I think I bought (or rather, my parents bought) my first CD-ROM drive for installing Windows 95. I think that might have been the very first disc I put in the drive.

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      One bad disk or error on your part going through an 8 disk install… yeah. But we went from tape drives to 5 1/4” to 3 1/2” to the phenomenal speeds of a 32x CDRW drive. Nothing beat a CD install. I don’t even bat an eye at 30GB game update download anymore, you could fit an amazing game on 1-4 CDs and watching it install was more exciting than waiting for these massive game DLs we have today.

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        I remember installing Half-life 2 off of 5 CDs, while wondering what the fuck this “Steam” shit was and why I needed it in order to play.

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      I think Slackware dwarfed even Office on floppy count, but it may have depended on which modules you needed.

      I’ve had the pleasure of installing Windows 95 and Slackware from floppy and I can’t say I miss that part.

      I also have a box just like the one in the picture sitting in my drawer right now. With floppies. One of them has Netscape on it. I really should clean some day.

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      While I disagree for the most part, that’s just me being super cynical because of how super shitty things are right now. Also, I feel like there was a vanishing small window of time that MS Office way the go to suite and you didn’t use a CD for installation. My copy of Office 97 came on CD and Word Perfect was still very popular then.

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      Like bike locks. Very easy to circumvent, but just enough of a hurdle to deter most casual crimes of opportunity.

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      Just like CD cases. Here in the UK you were allowed to return CD’s if wasn’t opened (like most items really). They put thick shiny security stickers on them. We used to buy CD’s, open the cases from the hinges, burn them to my PC then return it for a full refund.

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      Locks are not made for criminals, locks are made for occasionals after all, 99% of locks are very easy to break in and the 1% is a nightmare even for the owner

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    Well, to be fair, that’s a hell of an air gap. And those things were very safe, not even the Lockpicking Lawyer can open those.