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    If there is a bigger entity, it should not care how it is named by you nor if you believe in such entity, but how you did behave and that you cared for others not only yourself.

    And if the entity is indeed forcing you to believe in its existence more than in how you behave, then it is a shitty entity, which I don’t care what it thinks about me.

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    in american dad, the rapture episode, thats exactly what sorta happened, hayley, steve both got “ascended” but they were also agnostic/athiest themselves. the priest was also left behind,.

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    …Win?

    Jokes aside, if you don’t believe in god and end up going to heaven because you were actually a good person that would be a win in my book, but I would imagine the atheist in this event would be eternally upset that they were wrong in their actual premise. Joke is more funny if you ended up in a non-Christian afterlife.

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      I’m atheist who went through an agnostic phase earlier.

      So - as a thought experiment - let’s assume there is a god and heaven and a judgment day.

      There are two persons in front of the ultimate judge.

      One behaved “good” but just out of fear of ultimate judgement.

      The other one just he didn’t want to be an asshole out of his own wishes.

      Who’d pass?

      So I think god is irrelevant. Belief is irrelevant.

      Ultimately these ideas led me down the path of optimistic nihilism.

      And my most important rule for life: Just don’t be an asshole.

    • LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml
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      I don’t think most atheists would hate to be proven wrong. Most don’t have an issue with other people believing either, unless they try to push their beliefs on other people.

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    God doesn’t care if you’re christian or not all he cares is if you ate enough chili dogs. Needless to say nobody who died before the mid 20th century went to heaven.

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    Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 13 “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’[a] but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.

    Anyway put money in the basket for my jet

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    I’ve actually been told by a Christian that I act more like a Christian than some of the Christians they know after sharing with them how I am trying to put my Anarchist beliefs in action through practicing mutual aid and building my community. I hope they realize they can do the same thing and still be Christian. God doesn’t love the state and if He does, well…

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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      there’s a reason i coalition build best with religious anarchists while myself being an agnostic. there’s actually a ton of radical political thought in theology if you can get away from a hierarchically programmed preacher long enough to study it yourself.

      there’s a song i love titled Owed to a Hypocrite about how the politician and the preacher walk down the road hand in hand oppressing all us regular people

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        there’s a reason i coalition build best with religious anarchists while myself being an agnostic.

        Very hard to be an anarchist and then recoil at a neighbor with superficial differences in belief. If you need homogeneity of thought for anarchism to function, but you reject a hierarchy of institution to enforce canonical doctrine, how is that even supposed to work?

        there’s actually a ton of radical political thought in theology if you can get away from a hierarchically programmed preacher long enough to study it yourself

        Sort of the secret sauce of the modern major religious movements. They are all, at their core, populist messages intended to appeal to wide audiences of working class people. The insular cults and sectarian country clubs do a great job of raising tons of money from a few gullible rubes. But they can’t stand the test of time without reforming back into popular theology.

        I would say that any serious student of religion or history really needs a teacher (ideally more than one). “Just do your own research” is fine on its face, but inevitably you run into contradictions and conundrums that the texts alone don’t illuminate. A great deal of the Old Testament is written as part of a rabbinical dialogue, with different books and chapters and even verses intentionally challenging one another in order to spur meditation and debate. And plenty of Leftist texts follow a similar trajectory.

        You don’t have to read Marx and Engels as somehow oppositional to Kropotkin, Bakunin, and Stirner. You don’t have to read Descartes as oppositional to Kant. All these philosophers can operate in dialogue with one another. Perhaps even in some kind of dialectic with one another.

        But it does help to hold a certain set of common beliefs.

        there’s a song i love titled Owed to a Hypocrite about how the politician and the preacher walk down the road hand in hand oppressing all us regular people

        My favorite line from Game of Thrones is the Sellsword Riddle. The answer you give to the riddle says a great deal about what you think of political power and who ultimately wields it. And the deeper you muse on it, the harder it is to unravel.

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          “You’re a better Christian than many of them. You’d fit right in, and have a great time! Got some nice single girls, too. Too bad we don’t have some nice employed single men for them. Anyway, got to get back to work.”

          Like that?

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            Na, not like that. They were never pushy about having me go to their church. They were devoted to their faith but became suspicious of the institution of Faith. Told them about Christian anarchism.

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    Christians (followers of Paul) are all heretics. I’m a follower of Christ Himself, not these Romans who killed Him and then appropriated His message.

    Jesus was black, there’s no such thing as Hell, Donald Trump is the Antichrist, Eve was a trans woman, and the government is lying about 9/11!

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      Of all the Christians to put shade on I wouldn’t have thrown Paul in the lot. Paul seemed like a pretty down to earth person from everything I read, he was basically a riches to rags semi militant hobo hippie. Now Peter…

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        Eve was made from a man’s rib, so in a way at first she was a clone of his flesh, XY chromosomes and all. The bible does not elaborate on how the abrahamic god made her into a woman, she was able to bear children so there was definitely a change made to the “original” masculine reproductive system, but we don’t know at what stage of her becoming a being that occured. Either way though - Adam’s rib was transed by god themself into a woman.

        now i’m wondering how all the christian terfs would react if someone said that trans women are actually the original women

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            I never got these points. If we assume there is the god that created the entire universe making these beings, then nothing to stop that God from adding the right chromosomes

            That being said, we also have unreliable recordings of that time. So maybe this God didn’t bother with the chromosomes and I doubt anyone did a genital check of Jesus. Certainly nobody did genetic testing. And that’s if you believe in an immaculate conception at all

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          Makes you wonder: Is that a non-scientific description of sequential hermaphroditism / dichogamy (/ gender swap)? Maybe there was a time where conditions where so harsh that it also occurred for early humans. That would be wild! Of course, for us at this distant point in time it would all seem like fairy tales.

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      Support. As someone who grew up in a “christian” environment, it’s amazing how little many “christians” actually know or care about jesus and his message. It’s completely buried and obscured by random, irrelevant shit from paul, the old testament, etc.

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      first i was confused then i realized my confusion was the point and i let go

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        Paul was a Roman who never met Jesus, but still claimed to be an apostle. He added many heretical doctrines to the Bible, reinterpreting Jesus’ life to suit bourgeois sensibilities. Paul is the source of many conservative ideas claimed to be Christian. https://www.sol.com.au/kor/7_02.htm

        Also Eve came from a male rib. The Lord transed her gender when He made her into a woman

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          Is this the Saul who became Paul? So he didn’t become good he just changed his name and defined what is good?

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            I mean they have DNA, and chromosomes. So they have biological sex, which is commonly conflated with gender.

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              Yeah sure, but when dealing with the alleged literal creator of the universe those things don’t really matter.

              At what point could a God change all of that? I would imagine before Eve became a person those things were changed

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    I would read that horror story. Imagine unexpectedly facing eternity with The Spanish Inquisition, conquistadors, various other brutal imperialist forces and having it presented to you as a rare honor for a lifetime of Christian service. I imagine it like “The Good Place” except it isn’t a comedy.