I once jokingly mentioned to my wife that leaving the seat up is just as convenient for me as leaving it down is for her. To which she pointed out that, of the four different permutations of toilet use between us, 3/4 require the seat to be down, so all in all, it makes sense to leave the seat down.
And dammit, I had to marry a logical autistic, didn’t I?
So now I always (try to remember to) leave the seat down.
This is all personal preference. There is no issue to discuss here.
Be careful what you wish for.
If you properly close a toilet seat/lid, everyone has to open it before using it, I don’t see what the big deal is
Also, if it’s not a weird toilet seat that doesn’t have a lid, you should be putting it down to reduce the number of particles that get into the air…
Closing the lid doesn’t reduce the number of particles that get into the air.
A lot of public toilets don’t have a cover.
I never understood the whole “you left the toilet seat up” complaint. Never been an issue in my family but have heard “he never puts the seat down” all the time. Is it that much effort to put the toilet seat down when you need to go?
its gross, bruh.
I agree which is why I put the lid down but I’m asking about the toilet seat.
Soft close toilet seats should be standard equipment.
Then putting the lid down is a matter of a single light push.
Did you know this isn’t a discussion at all in most of the world? People do whatever and no one is bothered by it. I only ever see this in American media.
Sit to pee for all. Solves all problems.
I had a cat that trained me to sit down to pee.
The only time I could ever get her to purr was when when I was sat on the toilet. So, of course, I began sitting down to pee in order to maximise her purring and fusses. And it kinda stuck.
I’ve been to men’s restroom before. I wouldn’t sit on that unless extremely necessary. Even then, I’d wipe that ship clean and cover it in toilet paper first
I do wonder if they all sat whether that’d solve it, though. That is, if it’d be cleaner. Or maybe they don’t need to sit to keep it clean. Idk
I’ve worked maintenance for many years and I can assure there is no difference between men’s and women’s rest rooms other than there being urinals, they’re all disgusting, we’re all disgusting, all bathrooms are just wild animal shit houses.
From my experience, it depends on where. Malls and things like that where there are many people of all different demographics absolutely are equally disgusting. Semi-private washrooms tend to be less disgusting overall, but women’s are usually at least a little cleaner. Standing to pee causes splashes. Enough human traffic and and the whole place smells like a hamster cage that doesn’t go away unless the whole damn bathroom is flooded in sanitiser.
Really? I’d expected cleaner. I mean, they sit. I don’t know how women pee, honestly. Like, how the flow goes. But I can say from experience peeing into a toilet while standing up can be difficult. Pee, y u no single stream straight into toilet?
nooooope not putting my cheeks on that unless necessary
seat up, squat a bit, and aim to reduce splash. wipe when done no matter what it looks like
Men that pee standing up (except urinals, or bushes) just like to make their life a tiny bit worse for no reason at all.
At home, yes. Out in the wild? Hell nah. That shi nasty (usually)
Your butt skin is far more robust than you give it credit for.
Invent a new urinal and demand everyone use a shewee-like thing (for aim purposes). Now everyone can enjoy the satisfaction of peeing standing up and we can get rid of all gendered restrooms.
Now what, maga?
theres also realistic ones for trans men, but I don’t wanna risk getting in trouble
Exactly.
I’m a woman and will leave the seat up at work (not at home)
We have unisex toilets and truck drivers use them - they regularly wee all over the toilet seats if left down :(
if there is a lid - always down
if there is no lid - always up
it is the safest, cleanest, fairest option
we just leave it down at home. we talked about it one day and everyone with male excretory parts just wants to get off their feet. only time the seat lifts is for cleaning.
I’ve thought of this so many times. I’m fact, I’ve thought about a spring-loaded seat hinge that raises the seat unless there’s a person upon it. If the seat is always up, it is much less likely to be urinated upon. It takes the work completely out of the hands of the user.
If you raise it, put it back down when you’re done. If you put it down, put it back up when you’re done. That seems fair.
Alternatively, if there’s a lid, close the lid when you’re done. Then everyone is equally “inconvenienced”.
In my house, the toilet seat and lid are down when not in use. Because I have a cat and she’s the kind of idiot that will jump into the toilet and then track toilet water into my bed.
I try to do the same. My cat can get a little carried away with his toys and sometimes they’ll get swatted into the toilet
I always close the lid so things don’t fall in
Most The public bathrooms around me, don’t have lids for the toilet.
the ones that don’t flush, if you close the lid the smell vents outdoors
I’ve come across a few in my travels
Biased how. Do the math. Half of us sit down to pee, all of us sit down to shit.
Biased meaning only men have to do any work, women never have to (if it’s left down always)
True neutral would be last used position.
*most of us sit to shit. Given a large enough population I won’t rule out the possibility.
thank you for your consideration. i shit everywhere
Found the diaper-wearer.
no but a good guess
Lol
Also, as someone with male plumbing, we can also sit down to pee. So everyone can sit to pee, and half of us can’t.
Especially with the men that complain about how hard it is to control the stream, might as well sit down.
But then they won’t get to complain about how hard it is to lift the seat
not to well actually, but once you figure out a female urinal they are kinda nice. according to my mother who spent all last week texting me every time she used one on her hiking trip
The little sleeve thingy? My wife tried to use one but didn’t try it at home first. There was no bathroom/pit toilet out there either. They tried but couldn’t do it. It took me a bit to realize but once you make the connection that literally their entire life they have never had to pee standing up it makes sense that their body is just like nope can’t do it. They ended up holding onto a tree and squatting while I kept watching for critters/moral support. It was dark out and spooky.
That night I think a raccoon sniffed around our tent which was cool.
That’s a thing?
anyone can pee standing up it’s the 21st century
I’m not sure I wanna see that proliferate. My trans ass could never
My mom was So. Excited. I stopped peeing standing up when I was 25 because legs tired but like I get it when it’s your first week doin it. We told her to aim for leaves and pay attention to which way the wind was blowing because upwind is a mistake you only make once.
She’s back home from her backpacking trip, I don’t think she’s still using the urinal.
I don’t really understand what is the end goal here. It isn’t minimising the amount of total work done, because for this optimal strategy would be just leaving the seat in whatever position it was used. Funnily enough, amount of times it needs to be put up is exactly the same it needs to be put down in absolute terms, but considering the “up” group is smaller than “down group”, their perceived amount of times position should be changed is higher than the same for the opposite group. I. e. in group of one “up” and 9 “downs”, “ups” need to change position of lid with 90% probability, and for every “down” it’s only 10%. Huh. Of course overall it equalizes: 1×0.9=9×0.1.
Or is it some kind of “welcomeness”? Like, leaving the lid in the most probable expected position (which for equal gender usage would be “sitting” because people sometimes poop, usually not while standing; and because penis people sometimes pee while sitting (me often, but usually at home, not in public)).
Or is it something else?
I’ve heard of someone who’s mother died cuz they left the seat down and she just got stuck
I don’t know either. There really isn’t a universally agreed upon standard for how to leave a toilet seat. Even with a sign dictating the expected behaviour, it’s not a guarantee. It’s completely illogical to expect a toilet seat to have been left in any specific state*, and therefore the onus is entirely on the next person to set it how they want before using it. This is already how it works. It takes 1 second. I don’t know who is complaining about it.
Although, on second thought, the only people who would ever have to move the seat in a seat-down world are those who want to pee standing up, and there might be some value in very gently discouraging that behaviour in a public restroom. Not sure if that’s the goal here, but it’s a theory.
*Unless there’s a lid. Close the damn lid!
Seriously? It’s sexism. Women shouldn’t be expected to touch filthy things.
Not my belief, but it’s the basis of the logic.
up. down makes me uncomfortable. Schrodinger’s toilet seat.
I put the lid down, don’t want toilet water splashing all over the place when you flush.
I put the lid down, too. But only so that cat doesn’t drink from it.
I put the lid up, so I don’t have to raise the lid next time I’m there to piss, which is what I do the most often there.
