I’m in my 40s and a body pillow is all I need.
Is “a fan” here a person who stands next to your sleeping body in the dark and watches you? In that case I don’t want one.
I can feel myself dying
40+ here and the only reason why I don’t sometimes sleep well is because I chose to play games until 2am.
That much melatonin will give you weird sweat nightmares. I just mention this because a lot of people think more mg = more sleep but at 10+ mg melatonin does real weird shit to your REM cycle. Most evidence shows that the optimal dose is often less than 1 mg. Just in case you’re curious.
Best thing for sleep was a CPAP (in my case anyways). I can make a cocoon with blankets and even cover my head since I can breathe via the machine. Best I’ve ever slept.
In my 20s and made a sleep pb recently. 16hrs continuous
I am at the stage where I either sleep 4 hours or sleep 12 hours
Yea my sleep schedule is destroyed
And the best part is you don’t know which one you’ll get when you go to bed.
Barely standing awake at 10 fighting to keep your eyes open when you finally go to bed? Wide awake at 1 in the morning.
Browsing the internet at midnight because you are clearly not tired? You open your eyes and it’s mid afternoon.
Doesn’t help that I live too far north that it’s just always dark or cloudy
I wake up and it could be any time of the day until I check my clock
I actually pine for that type of environment though I suspect it gets dreary after awhile.
At some point in my 40s I started doing that medieval “first sleep” and “second sleep” thing where my eyes just blast wide awake at 2am. I don’t have to pee, I’m not uncomfortable, I just wake up. I read, take the dog out, brush my teeth again… After awhile I go back to sleep and wake up at the normal time.
I guess it is kind of nice to do a patrol around and make sure everything is cool, and the dog loves it. It’s just kind of weird.
This literally just began happening to me a couple of weeks ago. Now, I live northern enough that currently there’s only 7½ hour daylight, so most of the day it’s actually dark, and for these nights it doesn’t really make much difference having those first and second sleep, but it is weird.
I turn 43 later this year, but I also started some new anti-anxiety medication around the same time back when it began happening, so maybe it’s just temporary until I figure out dose and when to take the medicine.Long ago, when humans lived by daylight, we likely lived this way, with a “hole” in the middle of sleep, where people would wake up, putter around, chat and tell stories, have something to eat, and then go back to sleep. There was a lot less going on back then, people didn’t have access even to books and candles were costly anyway so there was no reason to stay up late. I’ve had the same issue myself although these days, it’s just the 2 times to pee.
Strange to imagine not having much to do.
I’ve been doing that as well, there is periods where I’m just awake in the middle of the night.
I think a lot of us do that and after awhile I started taking note of the amount of time I was asleep before waking so alert and ready to go. Now I set my alarms to coincide with that. For me it’s about 3.5 hours so I have one alarm that wakes me at 2:30am than another for 7am. Seems to work for me though my wife and friends say I’m crazy for waking myself up in the middle of the night. But for me there’s that calming realization I have nearly 4 more hours of sleep before waking up for good. Makes those last few hours even more precious.
Same. I’m over 50, and my wake up time is about 3:30am. I will read, or catchup on email, or play an hour or two of a PC game. Then go back to bed tired and get snuggled, and wake up at 8 for work.
I think my neighbours are like this
I recently learned (while staying up late trying to shoot a rat in my backyard) that they go to bed around 8-10 pm, then are up for an hour or so sometime around 1-2am, and it is fairly consistent
I started taking a tiny dose of trazodone at bedtime to help me with that. It’s not nearly as habit forming as all the “real” sleep drugs.
I don’t have to pee,
I don’t need water.
that vodka will turn to urine eventually
After 40? Lmfao. People, just take the time to care for yourself. Eat balanced meals, don’t over eat, stop watching TV all the time and go for a walk.
Take it from someone nearing 50 who took gluttony to the max by 35. I feel better today, than I ever did in my younger adult years because I stopped being a typical american.
Yeah well,
I exercise, eat healthy and am not American.
My sleep is still fuck.
Take your high horse and ride it into the sunset.
Same. I’m more healthy than everyone I know my age, and at 40 something my sleep is getting increasingly horrible. While people a lot less healthy sleep 8h every day. I’m so jealous…
I think it’s because they are happy. I hate happy people.
I’m sixty, and I agree. The best time to start taking better care of yourself is when you hit 18. The second-best time is right now.
For the past 16 years, I’ve steadily improved my diet and exercise habits. I feel pretty good, compared to what I hear others complain about. I sleep about seven solid hours per night, typically waking up once around 3AM. I’d like to get more, but I’ve accepted that ~seven is all I need, because I can’t sleep longer.
I think when you hit 45, you need to make a choice. You can choose to put in the effort or not. No one can do it for you, and no one else really cares whether you do. In fact, some people will actively discourage you, sadly enough.
1000% agree.
If you’re in your 20s, start building good habits now. Your future self will thank you.
Preach
The reason this post connects with people is that it validates a very well understood connection between aging and difficulty sleeping
Turning around and invalidating people in response and telling people its their own fault is frankly silly. Just because you resolved your sleep/health issues by taking better care of yourself doesn’t mean everyone else struggling with sleep is just an unhealthy bum who should do better
Aging tends to bring with it sleep problems that aren’t caused by lifestyle factors associated with poorer health, and even in cases where someones health issues are because theyre not taking good enough care of themselves, telling those people its their own fault generally overlooks socioeconomic factors- it usually amounts to blaming people for being poor, or mentally unwell
Source: I have a severe sleep disorder and at 27, I’ve seen a multitude of sleep doctors (and am still searching for a Dr who is knowlegable enough about my condition to try and help me beyond what I’m already doing) and spent a fair chunk of my life at this point sitting across from one discussing sleep issues
Above 40 and get roughly 3-4 hours after being in bed 9. Exercise daily (and have been since age 20), am at a healthy weight, eat (relatively) right. Been seeing specialists and trying a dizzying array of things for 9 years, but I’m pretty sure this is just me now. Sometimes you just get dealt a bad hand.
Which time do you exercise? I feel being tired really helps, so exercising in evening might help.
Morning for me, because actually exercise for me compensates for the lack of sleep, “wakes” me up. But thanks, I’ll try anything at this point.
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Sleep issues suck ass, I’m sorry my friend. Sleep maintenance insomnia seems so much more challenging to treat than sleep onset insomnia
Thank you, sorry for you as well. I have no trouble getting to sleep, it’s staying asleep that’s the issue. Seems to ultimately stump everyone.
What wakes you?
My partner has an issue, where she is tired and falls asleep. But because something is worrying her, she wakes with thoughts ruminanting in her mind. This will go on night after night until she deals with the thing she is worrying about.
If this is happening to you, see what you can do to deal with the worrying situation.
I had severe insomnia (10-15hrs/week) in my teens and early 20’s, I couldn’t get to sleep, so maybe not applicable. But what finally cracked it for me was rock climbing, I’d go after work and climb until physical exhaustion, climbing is good because it forces you to think about the climb as well as exercise. I’d go home after and have a cool shower and a very light meal. I ate my big meals early in the day.
I am still a short sleeper, I only get 4-6hours (average 5:15) per night.
Amateur! Wait till you hit 65. I’m slowly becoming Darth Vader. Machines to make me breathe, eyes that can’t see, ears that can’t hear and teeth that shatter on the softest food. Luckily they haven’t started replacing any of the inside bits… yet.
PS: this is just the short list of stuff.
I describe adulthood as an ever-increasing amount of rituals to maintain normal.
Oh god yes!!! it takes an hour of smearing gels and snorting powders just to go to bed. Then I have to do it again next morning.
i think someone snorting white powder would have trouble sleeping for days.
Getting old ain’t for wussies!
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I sleep in a big bed with my wife
at 35 I need the ear plugs, the right temperature, to feel clean, the eye mask if there’s any light source at all, and to lay on my left side with a 7cm thick pillow at just the right angle so my head rests without touching the occipital area
once i got 40 i also had to feel dry.
You sleep next to a large cat area?
I… I don’t know where this is going, but I have a few cats, yes. Not in the same room, they usually sleep in the living room. Is this related to the parasite ?
I’m now morbidly curious for my own sake…
I sleep in the pod of goo that Neo left, it’s alright
It’s late here and I’m tired so I first read “I sleep in the poo of god” and thought about it for a while before reading the rest of the sentence and then reading the whole thing again…
Poo of god is kind of an interesting analogy for the matrix.
I just read it as sleeping in neo’s goo. Thinking they must be intimately involved with Keanu Reeves.
I am but one of Gaia’s shitlocks
As far as goo pods go, it’s not the worst you could do.
What does it smell like?
Well, a pack of batteries, more precisely.
Cinnamon
Cinnamon the person or Cinnamon the spice?
The desktop environment
The horse
a Crocs store
