It’s something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they’ve made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn’t seem true to me, or I think they’re genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn’t being considered.
What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?
Justin Timberlake. I’m in my mid 30s now so I don’t follow celebrity gossip as much as I did in my tween years but from what I’ve seen he didn’t do anything too bad? Felt more like it was cool to hate him cos he’s been famous for a bit but no longer at the top. But I still think he’s a fantastic performer and some of the new songs are great.
Die Antwoord. The music tickles a particular part of my brain, but they’re accused of some truly heinous shit.
Do I dare ask? I have this sinking feeling it’s racism related…
Typical dodgy celebrity stuff, support young artists get them high, rape…
And then there’s Racism, and exploiting kids
Neil Gaiman. I’m extremely depressed that he’s actually a POS, and because I loved his work so much, I’m conflicted. His work itself seemed to have well interrogated values woven into it’s fiber, but I guess you never can tell.
Edit: really fucking bummed about Red Hot Chili Peppers too
kiedis from scar tissue? or is there something new i missed?
Yeah, his memoir or whatever details him knowingly committing statutory of a 14 yo girl.
Bill Cosby is a monster, but his stand-up special “Himself” is a master class on comedic story-telling.
Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert. I have several of his print books and still enjoy reading them; ditto his old cartoons. They really spoke to me years ago, as a cubicle-coder.
I really enjoyed Lost Prophets music, but after what happened, I feel really weird about listening to it. I like it but I don’t feel like I should.
I wouldn’t recommend looking up what the singer did
Genuine question, has your opinion changed now that the singer has died? In no way, shape or form is the person who sang the music benefiting in any way from you listening to it.
People often say to separate the art from the artist. In an acting role I kinda get it, because an actor is playing a different character. For music, it’s kinda the same. The music is its own thing separate from the person. Maybe?
Same. I thought their album was going to change the scene. Haven’t listened to it since he was convicted. He was stabbed to death in prison this year.
Walt Disney
I always had a weird feeling about MSI mindless self indulgence. Now all doubt is removed…
Wait, what did they do?
Jimmy Urine has settled a lawsuit for grooming and abusing a 15 year old.
I really loved the music so much. This hit me like the Neil Gaiman story
Naomi Wu a.k.a. SexyCyborg on youtube.
Unforgotten.
Got taken out (and we can only imagine how, but surely in a most effective way) of public life because she had the bad luck of living in China.
I don’t think this person really fits the question, but I agree with the sentiment.
Same buddy. She burned so bright
Lawrence Krauss did this awesome video about global warming for “skeptics” and deniers and it is so good
Only problem I can’t really share it because anyone who googles the name learns he’s all over the damn Epstein files
Oh wow.
holds up my binder of CDs
I love that you have CDs though.
Any artist old enough to have popular CD albums for sure has done something bad.
And I’m old enough to have collected them in my youth.
If you want some real guchurning debauchery, look at my tape collection. For sure those guys are evil.
(I don’t actually have a tape collection anymore)
I mean, I didn’t throw out my Harry Potter boxed set just becsuse Rowling is a dumb fucking TERF. I just don’t continue buying shit she profits off of, and can see tons of questionable things in her work that I didn’t question before knowing her thoughts on things.
The Harry Potter universe is bigger than her to where we can love the universe for what it is and can cut her out easily.
Louis C.K
The reason he got cancelled was so stupid and everyone made it seem like he raped countless women. Also, he asked permission to do what he did. If anyone around him at that time didn’t like the sound of him doing what he asked permission for, they could’ve said ‘No’ and he wouldn’t have done it. I just didn’t see Louis being that kind of unreasonable guy but that’s what they demonized him as. I think it was all a ploy, to trap him to do what he did so they could demonize him that way.
The only reason I don’t care of him that much these days is because I’m being introduced to more comics, that I am finding Louis’ material very samey. Like always going on about his kids, family life .etc
He has even admitted himself that he was in a position of power over those women and that makes it considerably harder to say no when the person asking could make or break your career.
H.P. Lovecraft
Lovecraft was my first experience with seperating the artist and the work. Since then, I’ve had to deal with it frequently but eventually you get used to it.
Those books are wild.
Turns out that the author that popularized the horror of the alien and unknown was a racist and xenophobic putz. Who would have guessed?
Hardly anyone will know it because it’s an Argentinian band. Bersuit Vergarabat. The former singer is an extremely machist asshole, but damn the band was so much better back then.
