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AImechanical turk based cameras all over the store and gates that judge whether it should open for you after buying things.
I highly doubt they’re actually using AI, given every other claim I’ve seen that starts out like this ending up being poorly paid people in a low wage country.
Is it a membership store? If not, they would need to have a posted policy that you’re required to follow for that to be a real threat.
The drone at the front of the store is not allowed to do more than request to see your receipt, and playing off that you can’t hear them is also a good option I’ve used in the past when they try.
Lol, the only place I’m letting them check my work is Costco. I don’t even take my receipt from the machine at other places, and have told employees on more than one occasion that they can go get my receipt from the machine or go check with LP and keep walking.
They can’t legally stop you, so I’m not playing their games.
So you have to abstain for 91 days to be able to close your account??? Fucking slime
Tell them they’re stupid and stop talking with them.
I cut my shithead republican family members out of my life and it’s made it much better. No more arguing with pondscum about how living under Biden was as bad as ice kidnapping and murdering people in the street.
Been a really nice year without that
They’ll take the building and sell it to some other shmuck for a massive loan
Sounds about right, you seem to make sweeping assumptions about people with minimal evidence and ignore any context that goes with it
Have fun in psych 102, let me know if you actually learn anything.
At least you have Tarantino movies.
I gotta say, I absolutely hate the way data storage is notated. Because colloquially, a _giga_byte is 1024 MB, but that’s actually a _gibi_byte, and a proper _giga_byte is only actually 1000 MB.
So storage sellers are technically accurate when they say they’re giving you a 1000 gigabytes of storage, but your operating system shows gibibytes as gigabytes, so you don’t actually have as much as you think. It’s like 7% less at the gigabyte level, and 10% at the terabyte level.
I remember growing up with AOL and being stuck on the kiddie mode.
I also remember the day I figured out that I was t actually stuck on kiddie mode and I could use Netscape and browse the Internet directly. Sooo many tiddies seen at one line of pixels at a time…
No you didn’t, but thankfully someone else provided a real answer to the question posed.
As for your scenario question, you made up a decent head cannon, but it still doesn’t explain how you think the sims example is different from the AI example. Which was literally the question I specifically responded to and you’re not answering.
That being said, I’ll humor your lazy reasoning.
Would you say that the person who set up this experiment with these LLMs is capable of normal human empathy? Yes or no?
Yes, they very well could be capable of normal empathy, there’s not enough to say one way or the other. But I did those sorts of things with Sims as a release mechanism, without naming them after real people and it had no bearing on my ability to have empathy to real people and animals, because sims and AI aren’t real living entities. At best they’re a simulation of real people, but they’re still just that, a simulation. Good job working yourself up though.
Your psych 101 comment is on point, cuz this is he lazy sort of argumentation I see from people who stopped there. Your lack of understanding/ lazy generalizations about how someone’s inner world works colors your opinions and makes you make wild generalizations. I don’t know that I would want to be around this person, but saying they’re incapable of human empathy because they fuck with an AI and make it feel pain is one hell of a generalization based off of one article.
But this is the Internet, so I’m used to these sorts of ignorant takes.
You didn’t answer my question, what’s the difference between the sim torture and the AI torture? I’m not going to respond to the non-sequitor provided instead of answering the question.
You made the distinction, so I want to know the difference.
It’s a stochastic parrot trained on examples of real people reacting to those situations, of course it is going to mirror real reactions. That still doesn’t mean the reactions are actually real. To ascribe real emotions and feelings to an algorithm that generates tokens in response to tokens is an asinine level of anthropomorphism.
It’s also easy to find an NPC in video games that reacts the same way. Are they alive? Are they really feeling pain? Are you a genocidal madman whenever you kill a bunch of enemies in a video game?
I’m concerned about the mentality the dude making the simulation has, but that still doesn’t mean there’s an actual victim in it…
If you think that I think you’re a bad person because you … deleted the ladder on the swimming pool in Sims 4, relax. You’re not who I’m talking about.
I’m talking about sadists. Anyone who would take the time to design and build an experiment like this would probably do the same to mice, or monkeys, or even people.
You’re splitting hairs. What’s the difference between someone torturing their sims by intentionally designing a scenario where they are being repeatedly drowned/burned/starved, and the article?
Really sounds like you’re trying to carve out an exclusion for an obvious example that torpedoes your argument.
How’d the car turn out in the end?
I still remember the 92 accord my mother destroyed after the oil pump died and she just assumed the idiot light had popped again. Despite having to constantly restart the engine until it fully seized.
Remember kids, you can just assert, without argument, that any one or thing has feelings and experiences, and the in-group will reward you!
The inverse of your statement is just as accurate, and less asinine, than your actual statement.
The person making a positive claim, IE the AI can experience pain or has experiences, is under the obligation to prove their assertion.
content mafia
Oh man, I just had flashbacks to the days we used to refer to the riaa/mpaa as the MAFIAA
My local Aldi has 1 real register and a half dozen self checkouts. Aldi isn’t safe.