Title basically says it all. Would it depend if it was the US, Russia or China starting it?

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    If WWIII breaks out we’re all gonna fucking die. Will there be any countries left after 24 hours?

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    12 hours ago

    The empire-ambitious Axis of convenience: US, Israel, India, China, Russia, various Islamic kingdoms etc vs. whoever is willing to get in their way.

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    16 hours ago

    It is possible that WW3 has already broken out, but is not called that way yet. WW2 was not immediately called WW2 either. It took some time for it to grow to the dimensions that enabled it to be called a World War.

    As in the previous two world wars, some countries will be switching sides. Just like USA has been doing now, hopping between the side of the Russia and the side of humanity about once per week, depending on how their president is feeling about things each morning.

    If we are currently in WW3, then the sides are very confusing:
    USA is against China but on the side of the Russia.
    China is on the side of the Russia but not really against anyone. Except its own minorities?
    EU and UK are against the Russia but not against USA or China.

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    17 hours ago

    That depends on when it will break out. If it’s tomorrow, China and Russia will be buddies or at the very least will be in a non-aggression pact situation. Most of Europe will side against Russia but might be more mealy mouthed towards China (even if they decide to start it by going after Taiwan and that escalates from there). The US will, as it is tradition in a world war, not enter until much later or unless attacked first. And on whose side? Depends on one person’s bowel movement on that day an no longer on treaties and commitments. One of the many crucial areas to watch will be if the US honors the security alliance with Japan.

    I say it depends on when because if we give it another 25-50 years, attitudes may shift. The US could try going for a more sane leadership and affirm its NATO membership. Sentiments towards Russia may shift in Europe, especially if the US is progressing further towards Idiocracy.

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      6 hours ago

      The US will be bankrolling Russia. Russia is weak and poor. The only reason they’re still in Ukraine is China. And once they’ve conquered that, the US will happily help them invade the rest of Europe.

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    10 hours ago

    If the U.S. started the Great War Part III, it would probably be due to an invasion/takeover of a Russian-aligned country (e.g. Iran)

    If Russia began the third big one, it would probably be due to either a) invasion of another European country (e.g. Finland, the Baltics) or b) some huge scandal that may or may not be truthful where American/European/NATO/whatever spies are found in Russian soil, prompting a justification to declare war.

    If China were to start the war, it would almost certainly begin with either the hot topics of Taiwan or the South China Sea. I doubt the Chinese would risk a war for either though, and would only go in when the U.S. are distracted in some other war (e.g. if Trump goes in on Venezuela)

    edit: or it could be over natural resources. Again.

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      12 hours ago

      China would go to war to protect their energy supply. If the US and Russia+Saudi team up its game on. Looks what’s happening now…

      • sbird@sopuli.xyz
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        10 hours ago

        Wars over natural resources have unfortunately always been a thing with humans. Especially troubling given that we have created all sorts of fun ways to destroy entire populations…

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          10 hours ago

          I started out when Barry didn’t like that Kyle got a larger share of the hunt than him, and they beat each other with a stick or something idk. Now we have the biggest of big bombs, the deadliest chemical and biological weapons, super fast fighter jets, etc.

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    16 hours ago

    I’m from New Zealand. We’ve traditionally been a US ally but the situation being what it is at the moment, I think there’s a good chance we’d try to stay neutral.

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      Sorry bro. Not gonna happen.

      Australia and NZ really have to stand together just because of the geography. Australia is critical to NZ’s security. If a superior force conquers Australia, then NZ wouldn’t be able to resist in isolation. Logically then it will always be in NZ’s interest to stand along side Australia.

      Similarly, Australia needs a bigger more powerful friend to stare down our neighbors like Indonesia and bullies like China. That friend has been the US for the last 70 odd years, and with AUKUS that alliance will be greatly strengthened.

      In any conflict since the dawn of time people have wistfully hoped that their own clan or tribe or city or country could stay neutral, but the reality is that to maintain your neutrality you need to be strong enough to defend yourself without assistance.

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        Australia’s biggest trading partner is China. It’s absolutely against their interest to have any kind of conflict with China. But being a puppet state of the US, they’re probably gonna do that anyway.

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      30 minutes ago

      Ever been to Vietnam? It’s quite nice, and they’re going to remain neutral in any coming conflict.

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        They’ll happily take my nursing degree but I’m not leaving without hubs and he has an old weed-related charge that would probably impair immigration to another country.

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            Maybe I’m being pessimistic but I’m pretty sure the immigration paperwork is gonna ask “has he been convicted of a crime” and not “has he been convicted of a real crime?”

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              They will ask that, but there’s often space to explain because of things like this and political prisoners. I’m not sure how Canada’s forms work and if he was convicted of something closer to selling multiple pounds to minors than simple possession*, that probably wouldn’t fly no matter what, but it’s definitely worth a shot.

              *intent to sell is also determined very differently in different countries- in Germany, for example, having a scale stored with your supply or having multiple strains of weed in separate bags would not bump you up to intent to sell, but it does in the US

  • Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    America vs. the rest of the world is what it’s shaping up to be.

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    16 hours ago

    The “sides” that the countries take is of secondary importance. Capital will benefit from any conflict, no matter what the stated sides are, and suffer minimally. That’s the true enemy

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    15 hours ago

    See, that’s the thing. We had WW3 in the 1970s. Hitler came back, and he was riding a dinosaur, and Ghengis Khan was disco dancing the night away!

    But you never heard about it because we have time travel, and decided that was a stupid timeline.

    Oh, also, none of this timeline exists either. We deleted from existence in 2012.

    The real timeline? Bernie Sanders won the 2016 and 2020 elections. Covid was a much easier thing to stop, because people got vaccinated.

    And Dorritos bought Taco Bell, and IMMEDIATELY went bankrupt.

    See? Everything is actually better now. You just never got to experience it.

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    Russia and China being allies is a given. Iran and the DPRK will be on their side too.

    Israel, the USA, Japan, and parts of Europe will no doubt be on the opposite side, with the more sensible parts of Europe staying out of it.

    India I have no idea, they’re nominally a USA ally, but I could also see them trying to stay neutral.

    China world no doubt take the opportunity to reclaim the island of Taiwan.

    I imagine a lot of Arab states would try to remain neutral at first, but Israel would probably take the opportunity to invade the rest of Syria, at which point some may be dragged into the conflict.

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    To borrow the terminology from WWII, I imagine the Allies might include most of Europe, Japan, South Korea, Israel, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand

    I’m betting the Axis countries might include Russia, China, and Iran, possibly Belarus, Hungary, and North Korea, along with partial or total support from other BRICS countries.

    The US is kind of a wildcard right now. My first instinct is that they’d align with their closest long-time allies such as those listed above, but with Trump’s affection for Putin and alienation of such allies over the last year, I’m uncertain. Trump could also simply choose to remain neutral, so as not to oppose Putin.

    The US was neutral during WWI and WWII until they were attacked directly, so while it’s easy to assume the US would be involved in the next world war, it might not be until it’s forced to be, if at all. It’s probably safe to say the US would at least be sending its allies military aid during the war. As long as no one messes with their shipping or attacks its land, the US might choose to get no more involved than that.

      • Depress_Mode@lemmy.world
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        12 hours ago

        Well, if history tells us anything, it’ll probably be Germany again /s

        In the case where the US really does start WWIII, it would definitely throw a wrench in where countries fall in alignment. If the US were to invade one of its neighbors like it’s threatened to do, that could be all it takes. It could be all the countries I listed against the US, for all I know. The only country that I think would support the US no matter what is Israel. I think the US would certainly have a hard time taking them all on. Then again, a world war has never involved a world superpower on the scale we have today, so it’s hard to say what the outcome would be, but I’d expect the US would still probably lose if it was them against the world. Although, taking the fight inside the US would present some significant challenges to overcome owing to geography, besides military obstacles.