it seems likely some of them would be space travelors by now.

You just said:

There are billions of areas in the universe that are millions of years older than us

And:

amount we’ve advanced in the last 125 years

Logically, you understand that with two vastly different times scales over that much distance…

The chances of overlap is infinitly small?

Maybe they passed by before our solar system even formed. Maybe after our sun burns out they stroll by.

But why would they choose to spend their time wandering around in a spaceship anyways?

Even if they had instant travel making distance and time absolutely meaningless. If life is so plentiful and there’s so many that are that advanced, exponentially more at our level, and innumerable planets supporting more basic forms of life…

Why would they care about us?

We’re one in trillions to them.

Quick edit:

Back to the point, in that scenario we’d never be “no contact” because they wouldn’t care.

Any one planet wouldnt even be a rounding error.

We wouldn’t be one of the few they want to study. We’d be one of a huge number

What?

You’re literally ruling out the most likely scenario:

Life is spread out all over, but even if they knew we were here, they’d never get to us.

Like, there could be a planet on the exact same level as us, thinking the same thing about aliens. But if they’re 1,000 light years away, all the know about Earth is it has water. Something they might not even consider relative in the search for life if they don’t need water.

And even if they wanted to send us a signal and could figure out where to send it, best case scenario we get it in a thousand years and they have to wait at least two for a response they’d have no idea if we’d be capable of sending back.

Even if every planet tried to contact the first 10 planets with life they find, eventually the novelty would wear off and they wouldn’t keep wasting all the resources just to add another tally 2k years from now to the list of planets with life.

Everyone gets hung up on aliens wanting to interact with us, because we want aliens.

If an alien civilization is advanced to know about us, they don’t give a fuck about us. And they wouldn’t, except if they’re planning on such long timelines that their procedure for finding life is to just steer a couple giant asteroids at us.

A civilization capable of noticing us, just wouldn’t have anything to gain from interacting with us.

Deja Vu is a “save error” where we basically skip RAM and throw something straight to the hard drive. So we “remember” as we experience it, but can never get ahead of the present moment to “remember” the future.

Because it’s still just the present. We’re just experiencing a very short term glitch which is relatively normal, or accidentally inhaled a bunch ether or something similar and shits gonna be weird for 2-3 minutes straight before it wears off and the brain recovers.

Like, there’s not just short/long term memory. There’s a bunch of different types, but the “now” experience is it’s own type of memory and last fractions of a second. Break that even momentarily and you experience deja vu because everything just goes straight to the next level of memory. Which is working memory and cover seconds to minutes.

but I also think that’s how the APA presents it.

Well …

You’re wrong. Sorry to be blunt, but you’re just not getting it

Abstract The American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is a classification of mental disorders with associated criteria designed to facilitate more reliable diagnoses of these disorders. Since a complete description of the underlying pathological processes is not possible for most mental disorders, it is important to emphasize that the current diagnostic criteria are the best available description of how mental disorders are expressed and can be recognized by trained clinicians. DSM is intended to serve as a practical, functional, and flexible guide for organizing information that can aid in the accurate diagnosis and treatment of mental disorders. It is a tool for clinicians, an essential educational resource for students and practitioners, and a reference for researchers in the field. (PsycInfo Database Record © 2025 APA, all rights reserved)

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2013-14907-000

Like, the APA can’t be more explicit that the DSM is not what you think it is…

And you just fucking insist that we take your word on what they say it is

But you’re wrong.

There’s nothing to debate here, there’s no discussion or interpretation.

That’s the abstract for the DSM written by the APA. I have no idea where you are getting the shit you’re saying from.

This is actually a serious threat, because AI is so fucking stupid…

It wouldn’t give the most effective plans, it probably won’t even give plans that will “work”…

But it’s gonna recommend shit no one thought of with 100% confidence and convince already brainwashed idiots that crazy shit will work.

Not just ISIS, all our own homegrown brain rot idiots on Twitter using grok too. Stuff that requires no organization or coordination, just random solo idiots.

It’s likely already happening. The AI companies just aren’t admitting it.

Like the guy that blew a cyber truck full of fireworks up in Vegas in front a trump casino, grok would 100% say that’s a world changing plan and would make him an hero.

I mean… insurance companies also treat it like the bible

Yes… I literally just said it in the comment you replied too…

The problem is laymen (including insurance) treat it as a bible…

It would be useful to have guidance like “these are symptoms that tend to present together” but that’s

Literally how the DSM is written and what it is for…

Full circle back to the problem being insurance and other laymen not understanding it…

What exactly is the part you think needs changed?

The problem is laymen (including insurance) treat it as a bible…

It’s a descriptive guide. But just because people don’t understand it’s purpose, doesn’t mean it’s useless.

If someone thinks it’s useless, they just don’t understand it, or it’s short history over the many different revisions.

Because there’s also records of him getting wasted at the palace all day…

You can check out the Wikipedia, I didn’t link it a couple days ago and going off memory

Rather than pointing to poor reasoning, the study highlights the role of a thinking style known as ‘systemising’, a strong drive to identify patterns and make sense of events through consistent rules, in shaping how people interpret complex information.

Same as cargo cults on how every group of people had a “thunder god”…

Human brains hate not having an answer, but we really don’t care how logical an answer is.

Literally any answer will do, so when faced with big complicated situations, a conspiracy not only offers an easy explanation, it does so in a way the stupidest feel the cleverest.

What exactly do you mean when you keep saying “physical forces”?

The phrase doesn’t appear once in your link. Or anywhere else in reference to physics…

You 100% made that up, and at this point I don’t really care why

Yeah, like finding out you could didn’t fuck anybody up…

I only care about the 4tb of personal data and I push that to a cloud backup

I have doubles of the data. Some of 'em. That way I know I have a pristine one in backup. Then I can use it, it gets corrupted, I don’t care.

Actually, I have triples of the W2s. I have triples, right? If I don’t, the other stuff’s not true.

See, the W2s the one I have triples of. Oh, no, actually, I also have triples of the kids photos, too. But just those two. And your dad and I are the same age, and I’m rich and I have triples of the W2s and the kids photos.

Triples makes it safe.

Triples is best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Inf1Yz_fgk

None of what you’ve said is n this thread makes any logical sense…

Which would be fine cuz it’s about ghosts, but you keep acting like physics backs up your wild statements and made up vocabulary…

You keep saying “physical force”…

That’s not a real term in physics.

The only possible explanation, is you mean any force that is already explained by physics, is that what you mean?

Because that would be the same as insisting we know everything, which no one who knows anything about physics would ever try to claim.

So…

What exactly do you mean when you keep saying “physical forces”?

Science has never in the history of science reliably shown a single interaction between physical entities and any sort of non-physical force.

Fucking magnets,

How do they work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs

The more you know the less stuff you’re comfortable ruling out.

There’s nothing that disproves ghosts, but there’s nothing that proves them either.

You could have said “souls” instead, because that’s just another word for consciousness. But it doesn’t work for ghosts

If the mod then spots that, they may reasonably decide to ban me.

That is not reasonable…

Do you do that?

Because if so I’ll block all your communities right now even tho you got some good ones.

That is childish behavior and any mod that engages in that, is likely doing other shit that isn’t as obvious. And I just want no part of it. I’ll go to any other community or make my own if it doesn’t exist.

What makes you think it’s without reason?

There are entire instances where if you down vote stuff without leaving a comment to explain why, they ban you…

So OP and others see those people act like downvotes are a huge deal, and they believe them

I’ve seen double digit posts about it closing, which is super weird on Lemmy.

Before that is never heard of it either

“Your pretty face is going to hell” had this joke, but with armpit hair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UtqjxCFRWI