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that particular combination of face expression and the top-down yellow lighting being the first thing I see when I open lemmy, I got jumpscared.
Me after years in IT and decades of Linux:
If you need help, bother somebody else
I mentioned to my dad how much windows 11 sucks to use and he agreed that he can’t stand it
So naturally, I told him about Linux, which he literally had never heard of before. I told him I’ll show him how to restore one of his old laptops with it, and he can go from there. Knowing him, I can’t wait to see “how cool” he thinks it is that he can just “fix” his own computer
And I’ve already converted my wife, instead of buying a new MacBook cause hers is showing it’s age. She keeps her Mac for backup, but the main computer is Linux Mint. She’s even started to understand the terminal a little, even though she doesn’t really have to
Slowly converting family and friends, simply because computers are expensive and windows sucks so hard now
Is there a program or way to check what parts are covered by Linux? I have an old laptop I want to try Linux on beforehand.
Btw you can check your laptop model in https://linux-hardware.org/
As another person had suggested, test with a live image first before installing it to an SSD/HDD, however Linux is very well maintained by the community and even if there aren’t native drivers from your hardwares manufacturer, for example Corsair Keyboard Drivers, there usually is Open Sourced alternatives for these things like CKB-Next.
I say this to everyone, once you get a grasp on BASH (Bourne Again Shell) and package managers & repositories you’ll essentially be able to use any Linux distro, it just comes down to the nitty gritty of things.
Yes. In general - it’s called live cd. Some distros ship with that in their installed image. {K,X,}ubuntu come to mind. Mint might do as well. You can boot into it and look around, see if basic stuff - network, audio, etc - works.
And you can do this with a USB, it doesn’t need to be a CD/DVD.
If only there were a distro as lazy as using an Android device.
Every time I mention this, someone comes along and mentions one or another distro, and then the caveats that keep it from being as lazy as using an Android device.What exactly do you mean? Like a distro that just works well on a phone? Yeah proper Linux phones aren’t quite there yet.
But any of the commonly recommended distros work out of the box on PC at this point, there’s less fiddling than with windows at this point in my experience
I think he means, Android runs Linux and doesn’t/can’t be tweaked for the most part. Because you don’t have root. So yes it’s opposite of what most Linux users seek, but it sure seems to be stable for years. So you can be lazy “admin’ing” it
Things have gotten MUCH better than they ever have been.
But unfortunately, it is still not as easy as just using an android phone.
But then again, it’s a hard metric to judge by, because while some things are harder than they should be on Linux, other things are just… Different, than what people are used to (Windows, Mac).
I use Linux, I use Android, but I still get frustrated when I need to use my wife’s iPhone for pretty much anything, because I’ve never owned one and I never use it. Does that mean iPhone is inherently bad design? Many people would argue no, it’s a good design in most cases. Just different. You’ve gotta learn the different ways of doing what you need to do. Although iPhone definitely has a few design flaws, in my opinion.
Likewise with Linux. Many modern distros are very user friendly. But no matter how good it is, people will always struggle when starting for the first time, because many things are just plain different. And also there are design holes/flaws.
You can say the same thing about any modern operating system you aren’t familiar with.
My sister in law has a MacBook, and every time I need to use it, which is maybe once or twice a year, I struggle. Things aren’t where I expect them to be. Things don’t work the way I expect. Heck, some “standard” keyboard shortcuts are different. Does that mean it’s a bad operating system? No, I just need to put the time and effort in to learn it, if I wanted to use it daily.
Linux has come a long way, and gets a bad rap. Yes it has a learning curve, and it might be more difficult because of all the different distros, but it’s pretty similar to everything else.
I’m such a nonconformist that I tell people Linux is terrible, and that they should never try it.
It really is terrible. And yet, somehow orders of magnitude better than most windows versions.
i had to hold in my excitement when someone asked me what linux distro they should use as a beginner
Arch my beloved!
Oh, and remember to
sudo rm -rf //j, don’t do that, it’ll delete your whole system (for any newbies)
This looks like an ex of mine. It’s creeping me out.
Congrats on dating Elizabeth Olsen!
Woah, just now learning of this legendary third Olsen sister. She uhh… she goddamn cute. The twins always kinda creeped me out, this was an unforseen twist.
They said it looks LIKE them … could have easily been another one of the Olsen twins too … 👀
Wait, how many twins were there?
Condolences on dating Elizabeth Olsen!
Internally: “YESYESYESYESYESYESYES”
Externally: “Cool, let me know if you need any help”
“my friend recommended I use Ubuntu”
me (screaming internally, about canonical, about snaps, about bloat): “That… that’s good. Good choice.”
happy cake day
would you like to yap at me about linux (any distro, curious about ubuntu now tho)
I’ve been using Ubuntu for years with no desire to switch or learn more. I’ve heard the comments about canonical and snaps, which I barely comprehend. But there’s a chance one day I’ll grow an interest in what you’re talking about, and I know you’ll be there to explain it.
I’m in the same boat. I started with Ubuntu partly because I wanted to start learning ROS (robot operating system) and the documentation for that at the time mentioned Ubuntu. I’ve heard great things about Mint, which I’ll probably try soon, and when I “upgrade” my gaming desktop to Win 11 I’m partly expecting it to try and fuck with Grub and my Ubuntu partition so I’m going to probably install Bazzite once Win 11 is set up. Hopefully Bazzite is good enough for gaming that I rarely will have a need to use Windows. Sadly there is windows-only software I need. I tried Wine once and it didn’t work.
Ignore the haters (me), everyone starts their journey somewhere
Kubuntu users rise up!
I say better for them to make the jump now to Ubuntu and figure out a distro better suited for their needs later on than to remain on Windows while having choice paralysis about what distro to chose.
I still think it’s a decent entry choice. I won’t touch it myself anymore, personally, but Canonical is still better than Microslop. That bar is set so low that even snap can clear it.
Posting this from Kubuntu Studio and … it’s not bad, really. Everything works fine. I even have a couple Snap packages installed … on purpose. (Though, generally, I do try to avoid snaps.) The bloat might be relevant in lighter systems (which is why I have a different distro on my shitty old chromebook), but this is a massive workstation PC that could handle 10x the bloat without noticeably slowing down, so who cares?
(The reason I’m using Ubuntu is because after trying several distros, Ubuntu is for some reason the only one where my stupid, insane, 6-monitor multi-GPU setup worked properly, right out of the box. I eventually intend to go to 4 huge monitors instead of 6 smaller ones, which means I’ll be able to drop down to a reasonable, rational choice of using only one GPU instead of two different ones. At that point, maybe I’ll try distro-hopping again. Though, honestly, “exactly like Ubuntu, but without Canonical and without Snaps” would be what I’m looking for. Would definitely prefer to stick with apt package management, since that’s what I’m used to at this point. Maybe I’ll try straight-up Debian? But I don’t really like the way Debian splits its repositories, where you basically have to choose between “extremely outdated” and “bleeding edge” with no “as up to date as possible, while still being well-tested and stable” option in between. For all of Ubuntu’s faults, I think they actually do a pretty good job of maintaining that balance between stability and being up-to-date.)
Isn’t Mint still effectively Ubuntu with no Canonical, and less worried about open soirce purity? Could be wrong, been a long while.
Mint is actually one of the ones I tried before. It did not like my multi-GPU setup, though. Could only use one GPU at a time, which means I could only use a maximum of 4 monitors.
Maybe I’ll try it again, though, when I upgrade to a more sensible monitor/GPU setup.
Nailed it
For me, I started with Ubuntu then Parrot Os then MX Linux
Yeah, a guy recently said that they’d jump into Mint and I could’ve said that I started on that, too (a fucking decade ago, apparently), but I was considering to tell them they could start with $BETTER_DISTRO right away for so long, that I didn’t end up saying much at all. 🫠
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! It’s gonna be so much fun! We can do each others hair and talk about our favourite distros!
Do we need the socks?
UnixSocks is leaking
If I could I would upvote this twice 😄
You can, but you have to de-upvote it once.
Got it for you.
UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG
what the fuck? nobody is going to decode that, yknow? you do know that, right???..
This is what they’re referring to: https://www.reddit.com/r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG/
UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG is an abbreviation for “Upvoted Not Because Girl, But Because It Is Very Cool; However, I Do Concede That I Initially Clicked Because Girl”.
Ugh. Go back to reddit.
sorry accidently replied to you
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I started using Linux last week. And now I’m looking at your memes!
we can be buddies in how bad we are at it lol
Took you a week to get your graphics working, eh?
Welcome!
One of us one of us gooble gobble
welcome to the master race
Same! Put bazzite on my desktop.
Please reach out if you have trouble. Make a buddy if you don’t have one!
Loving Mint but I really wish it was easier to integrate into AD/Exchange/O365 so I could replace all our work machines.
There is some interoperability with windows domains for bigger distros like RHEL and Ubuntu (there are even Ubuntu specific admx templates iirc). Check out SSSD
I still have a Windows VM for that case when the web version of office doesn’t do what I need. Work is all in on Microsoft.
This is exactly what I’m going to do in about 14 days. Fuck Microsoft.
Out of curiosity, why in 14 days?
Really slow download speeds?
Leaving a job wit two weeks after an announcement probably.
Good on ya! 🫡
Linux is a pyramid scheme. Prove me wrong
this is a joke, right?
It’s penguins all the way down
what? no. penguins swim. it’s just the penguin.
Its just fun man. Before I tried linux seriously, I thought it was ridiculous. Why would you care so much about doing extra random bull shit? Except thats literally like 99% of the fun. You dont have to do any of it these days. Most stuff runs out of box pretty well. People just do it because its fun to experiment. You learn so much about computers its addicting. I even learned some powershell for windows and zsh for mac because now I understand how they work better after reading books about the linux kernel. I used to be weirdly judgemental about mac and linux users, now I just want people to have a computer that fits their needs.
Its not for everyone, but my wife got so jealous of watching me try Mint/Ubuntu/Debian that she joined linux over a year ago. Her homepage is now the Fedora newsletter. She is a normal person who was only mildly interested in computers before and now we talk about Debian/Fedora all the time. If you like computers, its worth giving it a shot. Just dont blame yourself if it isnt your cup of tea.
I don’t really care for Linux at all. I just hate Microsoft.
I hope you find some alternative you really enjoy using.
It’s getting better, no question. I’m hopeful it will continue to get better.
Im really excited for Europes expansion into open source. I think big things could be coming from it in a few years.
My only concern is that as more large corporations and governments begin to use it, it becomes a much larger target for attacks and malware. There was a point in time where Apple was far more secure than Windows but it was mostly because they had a tiny fraction of the market share and hackers didn’t want to bother with attacking it
Thats definitely a possible negative, but it comes with new strengths that can help blunt the impact. It will increase the amount of contributors, resources and money at every level. More people will be exposed to linux and inspired to contribute to the community. Governments and companies will be motivated to protect standards they rely on. I cant predict the future, but im hopeful working together is the solution to the problems any major infrastructure change will suffer from.
You are free to think whatever you like. Have a nice day 👋
