Something big is happening, as Reddit seems to have purged literally every NSFW sub they know. Reason is always “unmoderated” despite some of the banned subreddits being fully moderated.


Edit: seems to have been a bug in automation (thanks @[email protected]):

https://old.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/1ii67mt/_/mb3fewv

It’s still a good reminder on how quickly a community (or communities) thousands of people enjoy and in some cases rely upon can disappear.

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    Yeah this worked out great for OnlyFans, Tumblr, and Flickr. At least OnlyFans was smart enough to remember which side their bread was buttered on.

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    r/transgender_surgeries wasn’t porn. It was a community outlet for results so people could understand what to expect. Queer folk always get swept up with porn, cishet only see us as a “kink” and assume our existence is entirely sexual.

    It’s fucking infuriating.

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      Well it is genitals but the purpose is entirely different. I don’t agree with it but I can at least see the logic.

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      Queer folk always get swept up with porn, cishet only see us as a “kink” and assume our existence is entirely sexual.

      This is the whole point of these porn bans is to remove queer people from the internet. The porn cover just allows it to happen. So whenever you see anything about porn bans think queer ban first and then some porn removal that comes right back

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        it’s telling that they target trans content; but leave gay content alone.

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          They knew that their attacks on gay people weren’t as popular as they once were so they are taking the exact same tactics and language and moving it towards Trans people. It both predictable and sad at the same time

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            it’s sad, but expected from conservatives; the real sadness is an “ally” like biden who didn’t enact the equal rights amendment that would help protect trans people from the legal version of this shit and then very publicly pretended that he did.

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      I’m currently discussing with people about mirroring it somewhere on lemmy, but there is also Transbucket which already exists as its own independent website.

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      I mean, ffs. #notallcishet? I don’t get how people who are being oppressed and all lumped together under one description (which you all definitely are) can be so nonchalant throwing around broad strokes like that.

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        You got a problem with trans people? No? Then it wasn’t talking about you. Christ, is that hard to understand?

        When a group of people makes an “us vs them” against a minority, it forces the minority to use that language back. As a cishet person, your identity is being used as a weapon to harm trans people regardless if you’re doing anything. Ignorance of the minorities plight can be weaponized to do more harm and that ignorance can be shielded through appeals to normalcy and tradition.

        When you respond to that language with “not all cishet people” you signal that your support is contingent on you not losing anything (your ignorance is one of the things you can lose). Which can and will be used to weaponize more harm against the minority group.

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        Lol was that hashtag ironic? You know “not all men” is frequently referenced as a critique about men who can’t hear criticism of gender equality because “not all men”? As a cishet dude: calm down, their point is valid and your reaction is cringe

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      😂 like that Facebook “glitch” that banned any inclusive terms and force-followed Trump on people’s profiles? Lol these fuckers

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          I mean, one has to ask why they were setting up automated banning of these subreddits in the first place.

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            The reason for all of them was unmoderated. So it seems to me like they have/are testing a method to auto ban unmoderated subs. Not that crazy, imho.

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              If they are really testing things like that, it’s quite worrying that they did it on the production server…

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              Then why weren’t there loads more “unmoderated” subs of different categorize blocked?

              If it was just a glitch, I suspect that the affected subreddits would better represent a random distribution of topics than what we witnessed.

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                A glitch is when something doesn’t work as you expect it to. I don’t know why you’d suspect any kind of behaviour from a glitch. Glitches can do all kinds of crazy shit.

                To be clear, I’m speculating on what tool they may actually be working on.

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                  I see, I assumed trans_surgeries wasn’t a nsfw sub, so I was weary of why it would be in the list with the rest.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out they’re making a ban list for all these communities, but the ‘glitch’ was that someone turned it on before whatever PR move/manufactured scandal they were going to use to justify it was ready to go.

      Or this was just a test fire to see how people would react.

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      That’s a pretty big glitch. 1. You have a nuclear button. 2. The omega thermal nuclear cluster bombs are pointed at a particular target

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    Spez: “Daddy Elon wants me to get rid of all the twitter critical and trans related subs. How can I do it without it being too obvious?”

    Snoo Lackey: “Easy. What we’ll do is ban a load of morally grey subs like porn and drug related ones along with the twitter critical and trans ones. Then, when the predictable uproar kicks off, we’ll wait awhile then announce it was all a terrible mistake and we’ll reactivate all the porn ones. We just won’t reactivate the twitter critical or trans ones. Because lets be honest - no one really cares and as long as the simpletons have their wank bank back, they’ll neither notice nor care either!”

    Spez: “Brilliant!”

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      Good theory, but it looks like they all came back including the transgender related subs.

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      As a quick reminder: don’t expect them to handle your load (lol) for free. If you are a gooner/goonette with some income, leave a tip for the server costs and consider volunteering for mod duties if you have time and some internet social skills. If you value your nsfw communities, they don’t exist without work, like any other community.

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      Uhm… interesting hyperbole during a time where America is literally facing down a fascist dictator.

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    Reddit is preparing to surrender to somebody who does not want NSFW content on their site in an attempt to appease advertisers. Possibly Musk.

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      The anti-porn conservatives have always been about controlling women.

      That woman who founded OnlyFans driving around in 10 different Lamborghinis, that’s their worst fucking nightmare.

      Before that, it was that one lady whose husband died and then she discovered massive oil reserves under her land.

      That kind of stuff is an existential threat to the patriarchy, which conservative control freaks must preserve at any cost.

      They cannot allow women to become self-sufficient and thereby self-determinative. Otherwise, who will take care of the men, and raise the men’s babies?

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        Literally why witch hunts existed. It was just a way for authorities to expropriate the wealth of some random dowager who won’t remarry (and therefore automatically cede all property to her new husband).

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        Also, frankly, I think sexual repression is just a HUGE part of the control mechanisms these people employ. Basically, “joy” is seen as a “sin” because there should “only be joy in God” or some stupid bull shit. You are supposed to take bride in being as missrable as possible so in the afterlife you will get eternal joy or whatever.

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      Could be going for IPO finally.

      Edit: didn’t realize it already happened, I haven’t been on Reddit in a long while.

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    Imagine all these OF models with their bots posting all over NSFW communities, it will be dead! How they will promote? Lol

    If all this people go over Lemmynsfw, it won’t handle all of this, that’s why more NSFW instances should be maid IMO.

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      As far as I remember they weren’t monetizing NSFW subs, so I guess their reasoning is that banning them reduces server costs while not impacting their ads revenue.

      Now what will be interesting is to see how much of Reddit’s userbase was there at least partly for the porn, and how many users will leave Reddit altogether because of this move

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      Man, like I’ll welcome new people, but I don’t want all flooded with porn. I already had to block a bunch of communities/ profiles, and I’ll have to work more to fix my feed. Having said that

      Give me your tired, your goons, Your huddled masses yearning to goon free, I guess.

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        Try jerboa, you can just block the nsfw instance instead of doing it piecemeal. Total game changer. (Some of the other apps probably have this functionality but I don’t know which.)

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            I didn’t want other NSFW stuff blocked, just porn. When I was originally signing up it seemed like NSFW was being treated as an all or nothing for most instances. Idk if it’s changed or if I just needed to look harder.

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              What’s an example of NSFW that you want to see that is banned by instances banning porn? Which instances are you referring to?

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                Idk it was like 2 years ago. I just remember looking through fediverse guides and instances were labeled as either allowing NSFW content or not, no nuance. I didn’t dig into whether the specific instances were defederated from lemmynsfw nor did I even know to look for that at the time.

                There’s not that much NSFW stuff that isn’t porn but I come across it occasionally. Usually jokes, sometimes people will also be very cautious and mark shit that isn’t really. I prefer to be largely unconstrained with what comes across my feed, just don’t care for the random puss intermingled.

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      I’m against the ban, but I also don’t want that gooning here. Although that’s what drives like half of the internet so maybe it’s a good thing for the fediverse.

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        pretty much just lemmynsfw, and nsfw can easily be turned off here

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        It’ll be constrained to pro-gooning instances, most seem to be defederated from porn but the influx of users in general will spill over to the non-gooning instances.

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          Like - a lot of Reddit users seemed to have accounts specifically to interact with porn, I think that transfers well into the Fediverse, you just get your porn account on an instance that is federated with the porn ones.

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            Yep, and that will have spillover. There isn’t going to be an increase in porn on non-porn instances, but the growth of porn instances will increase general users, though not at a 1 to 1 rate.

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            That’s how mine works, and I use different apps to browse porn so those apps are logged into the correct account always.

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    This has been predicted for many years. Most were expecting it to happen before the IPO, since investors are afraid of porn.

    They had also been gradually heading down this path for a long time, making porn harder and harder (heh) to find and view.

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      It did happen before the IPO. It’s been happening for several years. They have not been doing mass bans all at once. They’ve been surreptitiously taking down subreddits over the years. Mostly smaller ones that woujldn’t draw much attetnion. Looks like they went for the bigger targets now.

      This isn’t a sudden change to ideologically align with the current US administration either. They have been at this for a long time.

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      It’s not only porn. Today i google-image searched a skin condition. Most results were reddit links, but i wasn’t able to open any of them without their app as the subreddits were apparently 18+!

      I wasn’t able to view any of the information as i refuse to install the app. Google should deprioritize the results that can’t be viewed in the browser.

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      Are they going to revert the changes in a few weeks when Musk loses interest? Seems like a huge loss of website traffic for some Elon virtue signaling.

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      It’s only a matter of time. They don’t display any ads on nsfw subreddits currently, so management likely sees these subreddits as nothing but a cost, especially because they tend to be heavily image/gif based. what they are unsure about, which is why they haven’t been purged yet, is likely how much traffic to non-nsfw subreddits nsfw subreddits drive. I think we are likely to see purges of them when/if ad money dips or plateaus and they turn their eye to minimizing operating costs.

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    No porn = more horny people = more births

    No abortion = more births

    The logic driving US legislation everyone, it’s not so much “protect the children” thinking as “make the children have children” thinking.

    Honestly, they’ve guaranteed that the US therapy industry is going to have patients for decades to come!

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      No abortions can equal less births. Women aren’t going to want to take the risk of getting pregnant if there isn’t a safety net if things go wrong.

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        You might want to crack a sex education reader with special attention to possibilities of error.

        Unfortunately, young and uninformed people will keep falling in love and getting tingly about it.

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      As with anything thiose Nazi does if therapy still exist when they are done with the health sector it will be to make sure the child are well brainwashed after the education camp ( or whatever will replace education in most red state )