After the election results and looking at Elon for past few months, I’m starting to think Trump isn’t the problem. It won’t matter if he stays or not. USA has got bigger knives in it’s chest.
STARTING to think? Honestly I don’t even hate Trump anymore. It’s like hating a shark or a snake or something. He’s just doing what he does. It’s the ~75 million people who enable him by voting for him that are disgusting and terrifying right now. Half of America is the problem, and he is just a symptom, and it is a BIG BIG BIG problem for the whole world.
I’ve been trying to fathom the amount of misinformation out of here that has accumulated in people’s minds. There are people that I know and love, otherwise intelligent good people, that are thankful that Trump got elected. They believe that everything wrong with America and the world is due to “the Democrats”. And they’ve been that way since before 04.
There are also people I know (many of whom are relatives) who seem like normal people but then support Trump and all of his policies. I want to think they’re not horrible people and that they’re just brainwashed, but recently I’ve been seeing some of my friends jump on the alt-right bandwagon and posting extremely racist stuff to be “edgy”, even after leaving the far-right culture bubble they lived in. This is the sort of stuff that even when I was still a conservative I would never have thought it would be okay to promote, and I grew up in the same environment they did so it seems like they know perfectly well what they’re doing. After all of this I’m starting to think that maybe many of them are genuinely terrible people.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. Recently I looked up what has been going on in various European countries, and it seems like with a lot of them there’s an extreme populist party with about 20% control, there’s a less extreme party that’s still queerphobic and anti-abortion but more willing to compromise with maybe about 15% control, and then there’s more liberal but economically conservative parties parties making it so the total of economically conservative parties including the above two is above 50%. These countries also have actual progressive and even some left-wing representation in government.
Contrast this with the US, which only has a populist party and a socially liberal but economically conservative party that a bunch of people are brainwashed to think is literally communism. There is very little progressive representation even though the country has a significant number of progressives, and people who want less government regulations are voting Republican regardless of their stances on social issues. Meanwhile polls say that opposition to LGBTQ rights and abortion is probably around 30% which is not much different than the European countries I looked at. So I think half the problem is that democracy in the US is basically dysfunctional.
However, 30% opposition to LGBTQ and abortion rights is still fucking bad, and I’m still trying to figure out whether it is the propaganda to blame or the people themselves. Additionally racism and xenophobia had been on the rise everywhere and has basically gained popular support at this point so democracy clearly isn’t going to solve this.
This.
We have an absolutely wrecked educational system that nobody can think anymore. People have either working lives that occupy them 99% of the time and they can’t make informed decisions, or are suffering from 10-second attention-spans and can’t focus on any political messages past “I am the greatest, vote for me” and the fact that is the literal message that won an election, should terrify us all.
If we have a really big challenge, like a novel new virus or disease, in our current state with our current leaders, millions would di- oh, wait, what? I’m being told this already happened.
Well, if something else really bad happens then we’ll have similar or worse causalities.
Fix the 99% working lives. If Dems can’t get us a living wage back, what the hell are they good for?
Yeah you can absolutely forget about any meaningful climate change action now, education, health care, things like that.
The environmental impacts are going to be awful. With Chevron stripped and full gop legislative control it’s going to be free reign for companies to pollute whatever they want.
A false flag to enable emergency powers blessed upon the worst of us all.
Yeah he’s not going to jail. The bastard is just going to keep laughing at us every day. But he’s only got maybe 20 years to go. I would be surprised if 10. He’s basically 20% rotten McDonald’s M double cheeseburger. We might have to deal with princes Vans instead of Maybe one of the other trump princesses. Who knows.
All we should do is wait and feed him Peanuts or pretzels. He’s bound to choke in one of those things. Either that or the sodium.
still 20 years! Average USA lifespan for man is 75 year. He should already be dead by now.
Yes money help with living longer, but with his bad health hygiene it should cancel out.
Average mean means middle…half the population is still alive at average age unfortunately. But fortunately the whole age range is non-linear because nobody gets to be 150 years old. More like 1 person in the world might get to be 125 years old if they never smoked, never had even looked at a MacDonalds burger on TV etc.
Jean Clemente (the oldest human ever) smoked cigarettes (she didn’t inhale) and ate pounds of chocolate at a time. The oldest Canadian woman ever smoked until she was in her 90s (she lived to be 116), and plenty of other people who lived to be 100 also had ridiculously unhealthy lifestyles but still lived long.
For Trump, his father lived to be in his 90s. His grandfather died younger because he was a victim of the Spanish Flu in 1918. We don’t know how long he will live, sadly. But I hope he will die of natural causes soon.
Life expectancy depends on wealth. What’s the average for rich people?
Same as some peasant in any civilized country with universal healthcare. Something like 83 or so.
Nope. In countries with universal healthcare life expectancy sadly is still dependent on wealth. Better food, better doctors, lower chance of having a hazardous job, better ability to rest instead of rushing back to work etc etc.
(i.e. Germany: About 5 years on average between poorest and richest.) Inequality is bad for us, everywhere.
Given how badly his mental state is doing right now, I wonder if he will even survive his term in office.
Same. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was 25th’d a couple years into his presidency due to his declining mental state. But then we get Vance in charge. Which might be worse.
20 years is way too generous. I put my money on 5 - 7 years left.
Beautiful article. I’m feeling better already about everything really.
Wow, we didn’t know what to expect in 2013.
20? Isn’t the orange turd 80 or somewhere close? Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if he died of a natural death soonish
He’s 78. So in two years he’ll be 80 and in Just a teenager he’ll be 100. Jimmy Carter is 100. 0.03% of the population in the US make it to 100. The population was recently ~346,098,610. So he could be 1 of 10 million people who becomes 100.
According to stupid Google only 60 people get to be 110. Thus Trump’s maximum life is around 20, but that’s being generous. 10 is more probable. But hopefully any time now. Like a really bad sneeze while he’s having his Coca-Cola in the morning ☺️🌄.
The expected lifespan for someone his age is about another 9 years per the SS actuarial data.
Evil has a way of hanging on, so let’s hope that doesn’t happen here. Strom Thurmond hung in there until 100, and was in office at that age.
He’s 78. There’s zero chance he makes 98.
I doubt he’ll make it to the end of his term. He’s not a fit man.
Not going to happen
I so badly want this to happen, but it’s not going to happen
That’s 100% not going to happen. As much as it should.
supreme court will toss all these out. Though it would be funny.
They literally couldn’t. But he isn’t getting that sentence anyways.
They will say that executive authority is impeded by any sentence and defer it at minimum
NY was already probably going to give him a suspended sentence.
So build him a special jail so he isn’t impeded. Not that logic ever really mattered on planet earth.
SCONY or SCOTUS? Unless SCOTUS rules the laws unconstitutional (which I doubt even they’d do), it’s not their place.
Don’t put anything past them.
This is state level, supreme court can’t do a thing. Then again, his Jesus cult could nuke New York or something, nothing would surprise me at this point.
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“We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they’re elected. Don’t you?” “Why?” “It saves time.” -Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent
The legal loophole is called maximum sentence.
But no, he was always going to get something like 2 years supervised parole.
I’d assume any sentence for time to serve would be suspended until after his term.
That said, it would be very funny to be in a time where the US President could not visit certain states because he would be arrested.
Oh God, PLEASE, I know by now it won’t happen, but I’m begging
It is not actually legal to do this. A state can’t interfere with the functioning of the federal executive branch. Most constitutional scholars would say the sentence just gets suspended until the end of his term.
It wouldn’t effect the functioning of the federal system. You seem to forget he spent the majority of his time in his idiotic faux gold penthouse or at Mar a lago.
Dumping him into white collar prison wouldn’t change any of that and fed prisoners can still get temporary hardship/work release anyway.
What if he needs to make an international trip?
Flight risk. They can come here and work through normal visitation hours.
His parole officer would have to allow it. 😆
(Not going to happen, but it would be SO funny if it did.)
Doesn’t it say they found a loophole? I figured that what they meant.
I doubt this will happen, and if it did it would do more harm than good. His followers would liken him to Paul.
They already do. Trump would not be to big to jail if we weren’t cowards.
Yeah, won’t happen
Also, if it did, then what? You’ll have a Jesus death cult in charge of nukes. At least you can control trump by brown nosing him, the cult just will destroy the world to bring back jesus
Why would you need a loophole to put a criminal in jail?
A couple of questions (from someone not from US):
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Can’t he just presidential pardon himself?
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Even if put in jail, can he continue to act as a president? Like, give out orders, hold meetings, etc?
For the first question, there’s a distinction between state and federal crimes, things like shoplifting are usually state level crimes, if you do something like counterfeiting or crossing state lines while doing a criminal activity that’s often federal. The president can only pardon federal crimes, they can’t pardon a state crime (a year or two ago Biden pardoned federal weed offenses but that affected almost nobody because most people jailed for weed are at the state level which he couldn’t pardon). Trump’s charges in New York are state level and he can’t pardon those.
Whether or not Trump can pardon himself for federal offenses (like the case in Florida that’s been killed by that Trump-appointed judge) is yet untested (Nixon resigned and was pardoned by his successor to avoid this exact question), and it’d likely go to the Supreme Court… so they’d probably let him pardon himself.
I’m going to pass on the second question because I think he could actually be president from jail but I don’t know for sure. I’m not a lawyer, lol. Didn’t legal eagle do some videos about this?
Presidential pardons only apply to federal cases. Not state cases.
Yes. Yes he could act as president
He can only pardon federal crimes, and the state of New York obviously can only prosecute state crimes
I think he can operate as president from jail.
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