cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/54271735
Hey guys,
Our dishwasher conked out (pump died, it was about 15 years old). I’ve already repaired this thing a couple times and it’s not worth it now.
Are any reputable brands around anymore? Aren’t they all owned by whirlpool?
I’ll pay the extra money if it means longevity. Budget probably $1200 or so.
Any recommendations?
I bought a Bosch 800 series 6 years ago and love it. Bosch is a bit different from American style dishwashers. It has a screen that needs to be cleaned at least once a week. Also the heatless drying is fantastic. Mine is old enough that it doesn’t have Wi-Fi with certain features locked behind a cloud based app, which I find appallingly idiotic.
Just saying: There is a HomeConnect Local Integration for HomeAssistant.
Other than that: Bosch/Siemens (same brand) is solid. My washing machine moved over 22.000km with me by now…over 15 years…and works like a charm.
It’s a bit more time consuming but humans tend to have these things called hands. The hands can grip a sponge. Combine this discovery with warm water, soap, and circular movements along the dishes.
You’d be surprised: but it turns out you can be a decent functional dishwasher.
… I’ll show myself out.
There’s always one ;)
Youre right. I should have a trad wife do the clothes washing in the tub as well as have 13 kids to plow the field by hand, we dont use them new fangled tractors round here!
You also should get rid of your electronic device, and send your responses by mail. You have these things called pen and paper that you can write with!
We were going to get a Bosch when ours needed replacing but we saw a floor model Viking and my wife decided that was the one.
It fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
You can get a replacement pump for ~$50 and install it yourself in like 15 minutes. I did that a few months ago with my dishwasher. I was blown away at how easy it was.
It’s probably worth it to do one more repair before you pitch it IMO.
As for brands, I’d avoid GE. That’s what I have, and it’s been enough trouble over the past 6 years that I was tempted to replace it last fall (but I’m still glad I powered through the repair – seriously, it was SO EASY!)
Yeah, this one parts are getting rare and I think a pump now is $300. Ive already fixed other things on it so im not sure its worth it. Plus it is a filter model so I have to clean it out all the time which is disgusting, and it doesnt dry hardly at all anymore which is annoying. And sometimes it just runs shitty and I jave to run it twice to get random weird grime off the dishes that it sprays out.
And if I have to remove it from its hole anyways, thats an ass ton of work, so im not putting it back in!
IMO Bosch is the only company in the world that makes dishwashers.
My parents have a Miele that works really well, but I’m not a fan of the racks and the way they designed the tines - nothing seems to load efficiently.
Bosch Bosch Bosch.
I had a Bosch I loved for years. It had a feature where it would slightly open the door at the end of the cycle so everything could air dry. It also had a red light that it would shine on the ground because it was so quiet that you couldn’t tell it was running. When we moved out, it was still running like it was brand new after five years of use in multi family home where we ran it twice a day every day.
Our new house has a basic GE, and it’s fine, I guess. There are a lot of other things that are higher priority than replacing a working dishwasher, but once it goes I’m replacing it with a Bosch.
Edit: That Bosch also got the dishes cleaner than anything else ever has, even with the cheap detergent.
That is legit!
I’ve been satisfied with the LGs I’ve bought and used on two separate homes. Both are still good after 5 years.
Bosch, Meile
Miele makes some long lasting stuff. Or at least did, hard to say how it’s now because everything miele I own is so old.
Have Meile, love it.
Haven’t had the best luck with Miele. Intake valve failed and the plastic baskets are disintegrating after 3 years. Washes great but the plastic doesn’t hold up to the temps.
That’s a shame to hear, I’ve not had any issues, but admittedly only ever use the hot cycle once a month or so for a deep clean.
I’ve had both. I like Bosch a little better for features and layout, but I’ve regretted neither.
Both just work. Both are fairly cheap and easy to fix either by yourself or with a service.
I told my buddy that I suggested Bosch or Meile because I literally don’t have to think about them.
Both German companies. The Meile units are likely made in Germany while the Bosch ones in the US are made in the US.
Bosch Benchmark are made in Germany.
Only Bosch Benchmark series.
To add to to info here, be sure to check Consumer Reports
Dishwasher, like most appliances, are getting too smart.
Many Bosch recommendations here, but beware that they are not above locking specific dishwasher features behind an app.
I won’t connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud - Mar 24, 2025
My honest advice is to go with the absolute simplest one you can find. I have a cheapo “Edgestar” washer from China that works without a hitch. It has 4 buttons. It has no wifi. It has a 3x 7-segment displays for communicating everything.
Dishwashers have been around, and mostly unchanged, for something like 120 years. No amount of fancy silicone trays, wash modes, microcontrollers, wifi, alerts, error modes, etc… can convince me that modern companies have actually thought of anything new in this space.
This turned into a rant.
TLDR: a cheap one
Is there no bosch version without that bullshit? I will absolutely not connect any appliance to the internet. Nor do I want a screen.
I got a Bosch a few years ago that has no app connectivity. Probably 4 or 5 years old at this point.
I’ve heard good things about Bosch
Edit: or i guess more usefully, i have not heard anyone who has something bad to say about them.
Something bad about Bosch: if you need a repair almost no local shop will work on them. They use the cheap national chains for warranty work - the type that that try to band-aid over a problem until you give up and buy a new one.
Overall Bosch is reliable, but if you have problems they are not a good choice.
This is why I recently went with a premium kitchenaid that also had extremely good reviews.
Bosch advertising found this thread quick ;)
I do love their wipers and coil packs!
I came in to comment Bosch as well, but it seems they’re already well represented here. That said >$1000 was a steep friggin price for a dishwasher, not sure I’d do it again.
Another pleased Bosch owner here. The thing has been solid for about 3 years now since we had to replace an Asko that died.
No idea on brands, since I rent, but I will say: Try and find one with a macerator. The filter ones require more upkeep than I generally like doing, especially when there’s an alternative that doesn’t require it, and isn’t much more expensive (if it even is more expensive?). Landlord replaced our macerator one with a filter and it was a god awful experience
Macerators are not legal in many regions. Scrape your dishes.
Oh, I do, usually all that’s left on them is sauce by the end. It’s the slow accumulation of stuff that happens, and then us not being told about it, that was the problem.
Also OP did ask for America, and as far as I can tell they’re legal everywhere in the states, and Canada. Idk for Mexico, though. Didn’t know they were illegal in some places though
We’ve had two Bosch dishwashers (we moved) and both were really solid.
Everybody here are recommending Bosch and for good reason. I’m just going to drop in that both Bosch and Siemens are owned by the same parent company and are built in the same factories and are pretty much identical except some design and additional features.
I recommend their models with Zeolite. They are very quiet and efficient. I got one of them last year and I’m very happy with it.
I ended up going with a different dishwasher because I’d read that although the zeolite works really well, it makes any repairs a nightmare.
