• Mountaineer@aussie.zone
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    10 hours ago

    If $'s was my only consideration, I’d pirate the game.
    If my valid options are paying $25 to Valve, installing the Epic malware or dealing with pirate sites, I’m sending money to Valve.

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      9 hours ago

      Gabe Newell talked about this years ago.

      “When you look at the fact that these people have $2000 PCs and they’re spending $50 a month or more on their Internet connections, clearly they’re willing to spend money.

      So, from our point of view, what we saw more and more was that piracy is a result of bad service on the part of game companies…”

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        7 hours ago

        Gabe is one of the CEOs (if we can call him one?) of a gaming company, who truly understands gamers.

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          The greatest thing he’s done is kept Valve a private company. He’s not beholden to shareholders constantly demanding that the line go up at any cost.

          Funny how he’s still fantastically wealthy. It’s almost like treating your employees well and providing a quality product to consumers is a viable path to success, and selling out isn’t actually necessary to become rich.

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        I 100% pirate games because of price what are people even talking about. Most of the launchers work fine ime. Valve has linux support which is nice

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    8 hours ago

    This is actually the whole idea, right? That having your game free on Epic is good advertising for the game.

    It’s just surprising that it works!

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      The whole idea isn’t the advertisement on itself. The idea for the publisher / developer is, to take the money from Epic, as it seems to be a lot. And for Epic this is obviously a reason to get users into the eco-system. That is the basic idea behind it. That games get free advertisement alongside, is a nice bonus effect.

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        6 hours ago

        Oh I see, I don’t think I realized Epic paid them for the free games but that seems obvious now that you said it!

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    I don’t get this. Probably because I don’t grab those ‘free’ games from Epic. but… Why buy the game on steam if you already have it? Can you not play it on a steam deck through steam all the same?

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      That also assumes they got it on Epic in the first place, instead of the increased awareness of the game leading them to decide to get it, just from Steam instead.

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      10 hours ago

      Steam just works better. Their cloud save is reliable, and library organizing is actually a thing. I can see someone using the free Epic game as a sort of demo. Plus, if they really liked they game they may want to support the developer

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        Totally agree. Plus if there’s DLC or mods you wanna mess with you often use the Steam game as a jumping off point

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        7 hours ago

        Yeah an SSD just crapped out this weekend, reinstalled Linux and steam and was back to my save spot in my game. That alone saves so Mich time and effort of backup retrieval or playing 100 hours over again

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      I would assume the people buying it on Steam while it’s free on Epic aren’t bothering to claim it on Epic, so they don’t “already have it”

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      The article suggests that people are willing to pay to have all their games in one place.

      A not-insignificant amount of people would rather buy a game they just got free than have to remember to open epic.

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        I would rather pay money than use Epic, not because I don’t want another launcher but because it’s Epic.

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        9 hours ago

        That sounds like such a massive failing on Epic’s part to make an attractive launcher/platform.

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          I don’t use it very much at all but the other day I saw a news item that they had introduced gifting games to other users. After how many years are they missing basic features? It’s not like they need to put thought into it. All they need to do is build the same features as Steam. It’s clearly not a budget issue with the millions they get from Fortnite and throw at exclusives

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          It launched in a terrible state and they took ages to make it even tolerable tbh. I used it anyway for free games but I get why a lot of people want nothing to do with it.

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            Tim Sweeney was too cheap to pay a dev to put in a shopping for two fucking years while in that same time he spent hundreds of millions of dollars on paid exclusives.

            Tim Swiney is a fucking idiot, and the board should vote to remove him as CEO. He’s been a liability for years.

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        I am 100% one of those people. I try to check Epic weekly, to see if the current freebie is a game I’m undecided on. If so, I’ll grab it to try for free but if I actually like the game I then add it to my Steam wishlist to purchase next time it’s on sale.

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      Because its easier on Steam, at least for some (on Linux, or no hassle on Steam Deck in example) with more features if you care that too. Often the games are on sale on Steam too, so its not like paying full price. I think what is actually happening is, that people read about the game, find it interesting, the articles talk about it, people ask or want to try, because their friends tried maybe. And then they buy it on Steam, because they do not care giving a little money (me included), and don’t want to mess around or use Epic.

      Back then when when the GTX 970 was brand new, I got Witcher 3 on GOG for free buying the card. A little later I purchased it on Steam, because I wanted to have it on Steam. And because the updates were somehow broken on the old GOG launcher… But that’s another story. The point is, lot of people prefer Steam over the other stores / launchers for multitudes of reasons and buying the game is not a big deal for most. Depending on the price off course.

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      Probaly coz people start talking about the game again after it was free and others jist buy the game on steam after reading the social chatter

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      It’s been great advertising for sequels. I got 20XX free on Epic, then bought 30XX on Steam when it came out. Great games.

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      10 hours ago

      You can, but it requires some setup in the desktop mode. I guess some people do not bother or don’t know you can do that.

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    But Steam’s totally not a monopoly, you guys.

    No, the word does not mean competitors don’t exist. It means they don’t matter.

    No, the label does not mean we have to shatter Valve. Having market dominance and abusing it are different things, but we still need to recognize when a company fffuuucking obviously has it.

    If Gaben suddenly announces he’s sold it all to Larry Ellison, that has ruinous implications for the entire PC gaming market, despite the fact Valve does not strictly own PC gaming. They don’t have to, to be an outsized influence, to the point most people will readily admit they only buy from one store. We have a word for that.

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      Yeah I don’t think anyone can form a good faith argument claiming Steam doesn’t have a monopoly.

      The thing is, all a competitor has to do to take away Steam’s monopoly is to make a product as good or better than Steam

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        I’ve had dozens of people pile on to insist Steam is not a monopoly. They’re the ones I’m quoting about it being the only store they use. They’re the ones downvoting me, and only me, for pointing out it is a monopoly, while they upvote you for also saying it’s a monopoly, but in a yeah-but phrasing.