This is like movie companies saying that me pirating a movie cost them money.
Absence of a free thing isn’t going to magic some money into my wallet with which to buy your thing, I’m still broke AF.
I used Photoshop professionally for nearly 30 years. I retired and don’t need it anymore, so now I use GIMP on Linux for the few personal projects I want to make.
GIMP’s interface leaves a lot to be desired. One example, in Photoshop the Channels tab shows all the channels and includes any masks you make, they look and work similarly to the layers, and it’s intuitive–when you learn one, you know the other. GIMP doesn’t work that way, in fact I’ve yet to make sense of the channels.
Also, typically one would expect filters to only be applied to a selected layer and even to a selection within that layer. Some GIMP filters apply to the whole image, flattening my layers, and creating new ones. Fortunately, these are made in a new document, so you don’t lose anything, but the filter cannot be applied to a partial image, you’d need to pull the result back into your original image and mask out the part you wanted. Very strange.
I could go on about how selecting works and doesn’t work, but I won’t.
No, Adobe has not “lost millions” due to GIMP, they haven’t lost a cent. People who use GIMP were either never going to pay Adobe a cent, or already have and are using GIMP now, for similar reasons to my own. Virtually no one uses GIMP professionally at any volume of interest to Adobe.
It’s a good and useful tool, but it’s severely lacking compared to Photoshop.
Look… I like gimp a lot and Jehan is a G.
Adobe has lost basically nothing. Because Gimp is still ridiculously underpowered compared to Adobe Photoshop (let alone the rest of the suite). That is perfectly fine since the vast majority of users don’t need those capabilities. But the people who do (e.g. professionals)? There is really no other choice.
Yeah, that title’s last sentence is just a straight-up lie, lol
Do execs really hate him? Competition validates the marketplace and your product. Plus they can afford to develop more features than the open source community can produce in the same amount of time. So they can always argue you are paying for the additional features.
The weirdest part is the name. Is there any way I can use the software without typing that BDSM term?
Click on the icon? No typing required.
For what it’s worth, I’ve been at enterprise sized places that had GIMP on their standard software catalogue, no one cares about the name.
I mean renaming the program from the files
GIMP is open source, so you probably can. The GIMP repo has info on setting up a dev environment.
I’d think you’d need at least some technical skill. There was a fork called Glimpse purely for the name change, but I can’t find any trace of it now.
You could try typing the term used to refer (usually derogatorily) to a person with an injury or deformity in their lower extremities, or the term used as a synonym for hobble.
What?
Gimp. A word used to refer to someone with a lower extremity injury or deformity, or a synonym for the word “hobble”
In Mint right now if I hit the menu and type “photo” I get five options and GIMP is one of them. But it doesn’t say GIMP on my screen, it says “GNU Image …” next to the icon.
If I type “image” then GIMP is second in the list after photo viewer.
Normally though I just hit super - g - i - m - p - ENTER. Because I wanna run GIMP damn it!
Adobe hasn’t lost anything, they have tied up “design” for any business use. Its a total monopoly.
Right? I hate the phrasing in this headline. Adobe isn’t somehow “owed” those millions so it’s totally backwards to call that a loss. Fuck that noise.
They’re a business, they should earn their revenue by fostering a healthy competitive environment and then winning through innovation and customer loyalty. Not the monopoly licensing and subscription lock-in BS they’ve been doing for decades.
Yeah, this is kinda BS.
Adobe don’t care. Nearly every design firm is going to ask you about your Adobe experience, so you can use their Adobe software.
Maybe some of their designers will use GIMP. But that’s like saying your office also uses libre office and Linux. Which is extremely rare.
All monopolies (including Adobe) should be seized by the workers, and then split into different companies and collectivized by the workers. Seriously!
This troll again?
Yah, Adobe execs are crying about GIMP in their mattresses stuffed with thousand-dollar bills.
Bullshit, atomizing and pandering headlines aside, GIMP is a great program for light-duty graphics work and very easy to learn how to do impressive things with and a great intro to graphics programs and photo editing before investing in a more robust program.
The GIMP user would never have paid Adobe for Photoshop anyway.
If anything, it actually helped people get into photo editing and ended up using Photoshop at their work.
If pirating Photoshop counts as a lost sale then so does downloading GIMP.
If so, this man is one of the greatest software pirates ever.
Adobe pretty much encouraged piracy up until about a decade ago, that way they got schools to train (for free) potential future customers in their way to use design software.
TBH I don’t understand why they have gone with the subs model they currently have, its kind of cutting the blood line from their future customers.
Competition is always a good thing, FOSS competition is the best thing in my opinion.
This guy is a hero, but not because he is trying to fuck Adobe but rather he is helping free design software from (massive) cost which most people cannot afford.
More designers, better art to my mind.
The subs model ensures regular and predicable quarterly revenue, which means easier forecasting of growth, which means happier shareholders.
There are student subs, which are super cheap. Wouldn’t be surprised if schools/universities would get free licenses. After all, this is how they can attract new paying customers, as you correctly stated
I’d suspect it was much the same reason as why Apple decided to kill FCP and rebrand iMovie instead. Professional users are inordinately more expensive in tech support costs
Yeah nope, if the same product is available for free then the only way to prove a “stolen sale” is if someone had previously paid for the subscription and then cancelled to use the free version of the same product.
Anything else is just the hand of the free market doing it’s thing. If Adobe executives are malding because someone made a cheaper (or free) alternative then they have two honourable routes available:
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Add more value to their products to convince people their price tag is worth it.
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Reduce the price they charge.
But they’ll literally do anything else but those two, including astroturfing messages like “open source software is piracy”, so stop spewing corpo bullshit!
Holy shit… did Adobe actually say FOSS is piracy?!? I couldn’t find anything, got a source?
Or 3, the common alternative for monopolists, Buy the competing startup, cannibalize a few of it’s best features and end of life it.
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I guarantee that Adobe definitely sees every download of GIMP as a lost sale. That’s corporate mentality.
I worked for many years in the music business, starting back in the days of the “Home Taping is killing music” campaign. I know for a fact that music executives saw the sale of every blank tape, and later, every download, as a lost sale. You could explain that it wasn’t really a lost sale, because that consumer probably wouldn’t have bought it anyway, but they didn’t like hearing that. If someone was listening to it, even if it was just curiosity, that was a lost sale.
They didn’t feel that way about radio stations or libraries, two places where people could get music for free, but somehow, borrowing a friend’s album, and taping it so you could listen to it a few times and decide if you wanted to buy a clean copy, infuriated them.
I knew the people at the top who were going after the downloaders. They were mean, nasty, greedy people, who were stealing way more from their own artists than consumers were ever stealing from them, so I never had a single concern about downloading whatever I want.
These days, artists hardly make any money from recordings. Unless you are buying the music direct from the artist at their shows, then you are just feeding an evil record company. Pirate the records, pay for the shows and merch, and if you want to own a physical copy, buy your music direct from the artist.
Do that long enough, and record companies will die.
Gimp was nice but the color balance always made images look dirty.
Annnd well they should lose millions!
NGL, I paid out the ass for PSCS3 waay back in 2007 - Universal binary… PPC AND Intel installer - and FWIW, I’m still using it. In point of fact it’s why all my Macs are dual boot with Mojave (32-bit support) so I can continue to install and use it. Homegirl is no how, no way gonna rent what I should be able to own.
(As Adobe no longer has the CS3 activation servers online, if you’ve still got an installed, activated, instance of the PSCS3 kicking around somewhere, copy the actual application itself out to a backup location… so when you use the installer in a system capable of running it, you can swap the newly installed, inactivated copy out for the activated one you have in backup. Just do NOT try and launch the program before you do the swap… This works for PC copies of CS3 as well as Mac…)
Personally, I can recommend a VM for that reason. Activate it once and then just copy the VM over to a new PC, Backup location, etc. Turn on internet access for it when activating, turn it off and leave it disabled for the rest of your life. Worked like a charm for me.
Yep, same here. Mojave on an old MacBook with a complete CS5 suite lets me continue to use what I paid for.
I didn’t have a still-running copy like you did, so instead I disabled all network access and used my existing install media/licensing to activate offline, then before restoring network I went through and blocked every single executable at the firewall, esp anything having to do with updates or the licensing module. Now it doesn’t matter whether there is internet access or not, everything is stable and it doesn’t phone home.
The blocking was a pain in the ass, no lie, but I can restore the firewall settings from time machine if ever needed, and meanwhile I have a working, unshittified CS5 that is not constantly trying to move my data up to the cloud or give itself legal rights to my IP. It’s lacking some newer features probably, but it does what I need.
I’m going to pass your instructions along to a friend still using CS5 on the same Mac he installed it on, though. It’s a great strategy.
I’m still using cs3 as well. For what it’s worth, I just checked and it’s still out there to be had. I have the master suite, which I could not find, but pscs3 itself is still alive out there.
Which is good!
Years back, I tried the trial version of CS6 and just about lost my mind when it came to finding where tools had been hidden in the submenus… but the biggest “oh hell no…” was whatever they had done to the print profiles. No matter what setting or profile I used, the images were oversaturated. Even tried importing from CS3 - nope. I gave it up pretty quickly at that point.
Such a horrible product name.
Yeah, Adobe is just mud
I doubt Adobe execs know who he is, and if they did they wouldn’t care. They don’t talk in “millions” lol
I wish this were all true. I love having GIMP, and Sumatra for that matter, but let’s not pretend that Adobe product doesn’t have greater advantages.
Keep up the good work surrounding free and open source, but let’s remain real about it.
But can he make a circle?
Yeah, it’s complicated to make a circle in gimp, but it is very doable.
You can constrain the shape tool to make circles, or you can use a 100% strong brush to make a circle as large as you want at the spot you want it, and then use the select tool to shrink that circle and then erase the infill.
With that kind of attitude, I hope your name is Rick Brewster. Does your million+ user image editing software make circles?
