• Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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    7 hours ago

    Oh you misunderstand, he knows the law well. He just knows how to use it as a tool to protect the elites from accountability and as a bludgeon to punish the people for non-compliance, as well as how to make sure that never gets flipped.

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      What he said has nothing to do with law. He just said stuff knowing that nobody will do anything to stop him. Or to stop them.

      The law is extremely clear in this regard - the ICE dude murdered a person for no reason. The rules on the use of deadly force literally use a moving car as an example of when not to use deadly force - as long as there are “other defence options, such as moving out of the way”.

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        The law is extremely clear in this regard - the ICE dude murdered a person for no reason. The rules on the use of deadly force literally use a moving car as an example of when not to use deadly force - as long as there are “other defence options, such as moving out of the way”.

        When the people tasked with upholding the law consistently disregard it in particular circumstances - as they do when it comes to abuse of power by law enforcement - that law only exists in the circumstances in which it is consistently applied. Things like qualified immunity have effectively nullified any law that ostensibly holds law enforcement accountable. The law does not exist for any other purpose except to protect the dominant socioeconomic group in a given country without binding them, while binding the subjugated socioeconomic group without protecting them. Who is in which group is dynamic and always subject to change, but this rule almost always holds except in cases where very skilled lawyers are able to argue in court that someone in the latter group actually belongs to the former in some specific circumstance. That is the law being used for something that it was not designed to do, a bit like an exploit in a video game soon to be patched.

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    Thiel went to Stanford law ….I think a lot of these evil morons prove that these Ivy League schools are crap

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      Seems like those schools were successful in teaching them how our legal system works and how to use it to advance their own goals. Seems like the only thing they didn’t learn is ethics, but their understanding of our legal system is pretty solid.

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        They’re literally out there committing crimes against international law and the constitution every day

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          And they’re getting away with it because they understand how the legal system works (or doesn’t).

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    As expected. The Gestapo did exactly the same 90 years ago. Thanks to Trump evolution did not only stop: it went back 90 years. And the American people (just as the German) cannot do anything to stop him anymore. Sad times, sad times.

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    Is the murderer absolutely immune from a person who wants to take revenge?
    Yeah, ok, the murderer may never meet his legal and justified consequences but will the Nazi government of america always be there to protect him?

    Now, obviously, ;⁠-⁠);⁠-⁠) , I’m not saying a person should find this guy and do unto him what he has done unto others. Nope. No way…

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      This is a perspective that the leadership in general should keep in mind.

      They are relishing in ignoring laws and treaties and just opting out of consequences. Generally people understand that honoring laws and elections leaves the populace broadly with a sense of justice even with misdeeds and the punishments are, generally, pretty light. Even the light punishments satisfy people.

      Continually flaunting these mechanisms and denying people a civilized path to feelings of justice and being heard is a dangerous thing.

      It’s why the control bounces back and forth between two sinilar political parties, most people get a sense of “my team won” or “my team will probably win next time” and this placates people. To decide to nope out of these conventions is to invite great risk.

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    jesus fuck im allowed to get the types of immunity wrong im a dipshit. this is just embarrassing im gonna go tease my ivy league educated sister

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    The lawyers that Yale and Harvard have turned out, have become a scourge on our nation. Close down both of those Psychopath Factories.

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    He’s not wrong. There is absolute immunity for Trump friendly crimes, also known as presidential pardon.