Why would I want AI to play the game other than for testing?
I wouldn’t mind playing games co-op with AI.
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Few games actually have that and even fewer have ones that play well.
Apart from games, where this can also be used for more capabable and behaviourally more “interesting” NPCs (including computer opponents or teammates), the used techniques can be transferred to robotics. Quite a cool architecture.
Bold to assume having an AI play the game for testing is actually useful. Given how buggy games release nowadays i genuinely wonder which companies still properly have play testers. An AI whose results you mostly ignore is pointless.
I suspect it’s not a lack of playtesters that’s the problem, but harsh deadlines and crunch. That type of environment leads to tech debt to get things working fast, which leads to hard-to-manage code, which leads to bugs…
Why would I want AI to play the game other than for testing?
Beat Elon in PoE
Why the fuck is AI always being applied to only parts of society that are fun?
So you can spend more time working shit jobs for shit pay. Aren’t you happy? 😊
AI took that too! Oops all joblessness! 🤩
I want LLMs to be used to create thousands of characters that have agency in like, Skyrim or something, and to watch the absolutely unhinged fucking chaos of what it creates.
I don’t want it to play games for me.
That would be so freaking cool
How much legal trouble would I get for kicking a CEO in the testicles? it feels like it would be worth it if I ever met NVIDIA’s bosses.
None if you don’t get caught. They’re not going to do a full investigation if you don’t try to murder the guy. Also, look how badly the current FBI fumbled the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s killer? into Brian Thompson’s killer?
It’s crazy how much Brian Thompson isn’t even a name in my head. If someone murders me, I only hope they’re not so charismatic that when people try to remember me they just picture a beige balloon named John Lastname.
Depends, are you rich?
Or remarkably good-looking?
I want AI to do my chores not play my games.
Silver lining: maybe it could be used to make some games more accessible for people with disabilities
Right? Like, figure out how to sort and fold laundry.
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Honestly I’d be curious about what a couple Minecraft bots could do. If you gave them a roadmap to endgame gear, what kind of farms would they build?
Sort of already exists as Baritone. https://github.com/cabaletta/baritone I’m not sure what all it can and can’t do but it’s pretty sophisticated.
Edit: Note that, as far as I know, none of it is AI in the modern usage of the term.
Yes! I went kind of hard into technical Minecraft during COVID and used it a lot. It’s more of an automation framework, it’s a terrific piece of software but not “AI”.
I’ve dicked around with a baritone+LLM setup but it’s really hard to get the model to do anything worthwhile. The model doesn’t really see the world around it, just whatever textual representation you manage to make of it. It’s slow and frustrating and only gets the very basic tasks right.
I would imagine a vision+interaction model would be leaps and bounds better at any interesting application. Ultimately I’d love to see a civilization of bots building its own base with mega farms and shit…
If they’re as good at the game as LLMs are at writing, the bots would probably try to build a Nether portal using black wool instead of obsidian, then set it on fire, then die burning on said fire.
Work is hard, modern games are easy.
Shoot this dot, go to that dot, bring “x” to this dot…
Anything requiring critical thinking like a puzzle, the bot just brute forces trying every possible outcome until something works.
It works because games have a finite set of options and at least one progresses. The real world isn’t that clean, and you don’t get infinite chances to get 1 correct solution.
Great, another fun thing the LLM craze want to take from me. FFS.
that and the polar ice caps
Great! Now the AI can play the video games for me while I do the dishes. I swear it was the other way around in the SciFi.
Shut up and get back down the mines or your robot manager-security-cop will have to terminate you. Meet your billionaire-enforced quota and you’ll live to enjoy another day of mining.
Merry Christmas from Chiron Beta Prime :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3DyxaCYlfg
Plot twist: turns out that at some point, the billionaire got replaced by robots who have learned to be megalomaniac assholes.
Game companies: spend millions fighting cheating and cheat software.
Nvidia: here comes AI game assist!
Next: game companies can subscribe to NVIDIA anti-AI-cheating AI. This is innovation under capitalism.
Cheaters have been using object detection AI to cheat for quite some time
That’s cool. AI can do art and writing and video games for me. It can watch all my shows. All I have to do is work and maybe sleep. Sounds fun.
Y’all laugh but there are way too many people into idle games, not to mention people who prefer watching a stream (even without commentary) over playing a game itself.
I cannot comprehend why, though, just like I can’t comprehend how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun.
I was laughing along until you said “watching a stream (even without commentary)”. Yeah I’ve done that one. Sometimes I want to see what’s next in the game without spending 100 hours to get there ><. Also watching lets me mentally unwind, playing takes a mental toll.
I think we’re all kinda beat down by life, so I don’t really judge people on it. I just am not one of them, haha. (But I don’t even watch TV or movies much so I’m admittedly a weirdo).
Cheats in single player games is a blast.
It gets old quick but it’s fun for a while.
how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun
Have you never played a game with unreasonable grind that saps all the fun out of it ? Often just to drive player hours and ‘engagement’. Multiplayer cheats however can die in a fire.
I suppose. When I’m referring to cheats, it’s more in regards to invulnerability, infinite resources, etc., which seem to sap the point of having a game in the first place. Like making the fun parts into a grind, rather than the other way around.
That said, I’ll also say sometimes part of the challenge is the grind, so it depends. You have to pick your own poison, right?
Like, take Silksong for example. You lose out on the full experience if you mod out the annoying run from bench to boss, it’s like a 40 second annoyance built in punishment. But I get why you’d do that-- it’s technically there for a reason but I get it. Hell, even the difficulty adjustment mods I can understand.
But making the bosses die in one hit or making yourself invulnerable? Now you’ve lost me, that’s like a core element of the game; you might as well just watch someone else play it because what’s the point.
Some games I want to play just to experience the storyline, but without getting stressed by danger or frustrated by getting stuck.
When I was a child I used to ask my dad to input the invulnerability cheat in Doom. I was way too bad at movement, aiming and basically just everything, that I could have had fun otherwise. Likewise for Anno 1602, there I needed the money cheat because otherwise I’d just go bankrupt. I didn’t understand the income balance yet but I still had fun building economy chains.
I’m not sure I have a point here. Just remembered cheating as a child because I needed it. Probably haven’t cheated in 18 years now.
My dad entered in codes for me when I was really little, but that’s kind of another thing entirely. I don’t think little kids have an achievement oriented sorta version of play, so anything goes with them. Once you’re older, that dopamine rush just hits differently, though.
In education you could also consider it a form of scaffolding. Enabling someone to do something they normally can’t do is a form of development, like giving handicaps in games and stuff can foster the skills to not need them eventually.
Good analogy. It also brought to mind the bumpers you can enable for kids in bowling.
I mean it used to be the norm for games to have cheat codes built into them. Maybe you get stuck on one part and need help, maybe you have fun spawning a bunch of weapons and going on a rampage (see GTA), or maybe you just want to see what happens if you spawn a giant enemy in a small room.
Then just don’t play that game lmao
I don’t watch others playing games, either, but someone who likes those streams told me he didn’t see a difference between watching good gamers play games and good football players play football.
You never used cheat codes in GTA San Andreas and the like? It’s a lot of fun
I actually thought about that after my comment and summoning a tank from nowhere was fun. At least for a little bit… but maybe mostly for the novelty of it all. Also I was like, 12.
I mean it varies. It’s fun to just goof off in games sometimes. That’s why sandbox games like Minecraft typically have creative modes, sometimes you just wanna play in the sandbox and have a good time without the more typical game parts tying you down
Imagine thé thing you cook and guide a rimworld playing ia while making cookie then an horde attack you start yelling the cookie burn your base is lost.
I can’t believe I’m not really not really flying a spaceship!
Leonard > Amy
I guess Elon won’t be needing gamers’ services to max out his characters anymore.
Fucking AI taking valuable jobs away again.
Oh yeah? Go beat Talos Principle then.
I see what you did there.
Zzzt!
