For those who aren’t familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn’t be believed, or being influenced to believe something that’s not necessarily in your best interests.
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I was raised evangelical Christian in the Bible belt. I was a “true believer” I call it now. I literally believed there was a hell that people were going to. I’m glad I’m out of that.
I believed that I had to be certain way in society or I was fundamentally flawed and bad.
I dropped that belief, acknowledge that to some point it’s convenient for me to follow societal norms but trying to fit in makes me mostly miserable. I naturally don’t want to do things that bother other people but I also don’t really want to be around them so why should I try to be likeable to them any more than is normal to me. This way people who like me, are sure to like me as I am. If I like them enough, I’ll naturally also want to be considerate of them, even if I have to occasionally behave a little different.
I somehow made it very complicated with just beating myself up for being bad/stupid/ugly/broken because I kept believing people who I don’t even like.
I ran 5 km every day and ate very low fat, mostly plants. Ended up with non alcoholic fatty liver.
seems inherited, did you ever find a cause?
No one else in my family or extended family has had fatty liver. Fortunately yes, I reversed my NAFLD by eating a low carbohydrate high fat diet.
Used to believe that humanity would inherently self-improve, especially the more easily information became accessible.
People couldn’t read and write at first, and didn’t know much about the world, and now we have instant communication and access to vast repositories of knowledge.
I believed that people were naturally curious, and wanted to learn and figure things out. Education systems sucked, but with improvement it could foster that curiosity in everyone!
Turns out that was incredibly naive. Humans have an inherent ego that tries to make themselves more than reality. Their problems are more real than another’s. Their inconveniences are more important than anything bigger-picture. I thought religion were old dinosaur structures of primitive belief systems that lasted for too long, but humans will literally make shit up or believe in some made up shit from someone else if it helps them ignore the inconveniences of reality.
COVID-19 really helped sink that in.
People are naturally curious but we live in a system that punishes curiosity.
covid also shifted the anti-vaxers to the RIGHT.
Oh man. Yeah, I remember in middle school reading about WW1, WW2, Vietnam, the Civil War (USA) and thinking that thank god we’re smart enough to be past that.
Yes, also, COVID killed any hope I had left. I remember before the pandemic thinking that if aliens landed all of humanity’s petty bickering would end once we had something that united us all, and when COVID hit I thought “this is it, we have no choice but to come together as humans and face a challenge”…holy shit was I wrong. In the years since the pandemic I’ve had to actively try to forget most of what happened for my own sanity.
Humans are smart.
But this isn’t our natural habitat. Its a laboratory and we are the lab rats.
Can you judge an animal’s intelligence if they are in a controlled environment and manipulated by mad scientists? (mad scientist = the 1%)
Mine have generally been mentioned. In my early 20s in the early 2000s. Got into the ancient aliens stuff briefly.
Believed in supernatural and past life stuff for a good bit.
By the mid-2000s, having “pulled myself out of poverty” (I didn’t do it on my own; I had help and support for family after having been homeless at one point) and gotten a salaried job, started listening to rightwing radio hosts. Thought I just needed to work a bit harder and success would come. All the other people were lazy and social programs were bad with the possible exception of something like WIC. Nah, I was just fairly lucky to have survived some stupid situations, had help from family, and was generally just way too entitled and thinking I was special. I was fairly insufferable for a good while.
I voted for Ralph Nader in 2000
But he was a great tennisman ! Who wouldn’t vote for him ???
Once thought that Google eas a great company and earnt evil.
I believed the USA was a liberal democracy full of concerned citizens. I also had faith in the financial system at one point!
In fairness before the Internet we could pretend people were decent and thoughtful. Facebook well and truly ended that.
So you just drank the socialist kool aid. Got it.
You have faith in the financial system?
You say socialist like it’s a bad thing and it screams “I’m ignorant.”
If you hate socialism stop using the things socialism provides you. Mail, paved roads, power and water delivered to your house, fire and police, education, etc. Socialism is a big part of why our lives are so decent despite the capitalist hellscape the billionaires are pushing. They’ve lied to you that social programs are why your taxes are so high; they’re high because the wealthiest among us aren’t paying a fair share.
None of that is socialism.
Thinking everything is a “hellscape” and only those in your group are enlightened enough to see a better way (those outside the group are “ignorant”) is what most people refer to as “drinking the koolaid”.
Modern “socialism” is at best a grift, at worst a cult.
I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in…
…don’t make me post the whole copypasta.
“socialist kool aid”
If caring about others is kool aid, call me the kool aid man because I am about to burst through the glass ceilings and bring delicious nectar to all.
He did a good thing for sure
9/11 truther. Missile pods on military jets and fed reserve gold heist. WTC7 got me in. But I was also a welder and I’d been making thermite for fun since I was a teenager so I knew that jet fuel didn’t have to melt steel beams to significantly reduce its tensile strength, just several hundred degrees was enough to weaken steel. And I know the difference between thermite products and liquid aluminium pouring from the buildings, thermite looks like straight up lava, and in any case, you need way, way more thermite to melt through a steel girder than you might expect from watching movies. It takes at least half a kilo just to melt through the hood of a car, let alone and engine block like the anarchist cookbook would have you believe, I know because I did it.
Ok, I’ve always wondered what’s up with WTC7, but I could never be bothered to wade through the noise. What was up with that?
I remember watching one of the Flash animated “truth” “documentaries” on flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon.
It talked about missiles being used and similar stuff, I was 13-14 at the time and I showed my parents, they rightfully explained that this was just a random video that anyone could have made.
They brought up the importance of using trusted sources, but also emphasized that they didn’t have the facts either.
They told me to calm down and wait for verifiable facts to surface.
I once watched a 9/11 truther type program that hand waved away this issue by simply stating the government used “nanothermite”. What is “nanothermite”? It’s thermite but acts in whatever way it needs to when somebody pokes holes in the idea of thermite.
It takes at least half a kilo just to melt through the hood of a car
Counter argument: if you did this at home on a hobby budget, imagine what is possible with a high tech lab and a military budget.
imagine
Not a terribly convincing start to a hypothesis.
The start was what they achieved with no resources. Keep up.
You are grossly overestimating military budget spending. Now, a private contractor with a government contract, on the other hand, maybe. As long as they didn’t waste it and delivered on schedule. Wait, that doesn’t happen either.
IF a private contractor can hijack 4 planes in the most heavily guarded airspace in the world without scrambling a single defence fighter, then they can source Nanothermite on schedule.
Not saying that happened, but suitable explosives are not the weakest link in the 9/11 conspiracy theories.
If you work hard, are honest, and moral, you will get ahead in life.
It was embarrassingly late in life before I realized how much of a farce that was.
Oh man! The pieces of myself I gave working for companies that gave zero shits about me! I worked way too hard for way too little. I was nothing to them.
Kids if you’re reading this unionize your workplace. Through a union is the only way I’ve gotten a decent wage, benefits package, and shield from the whims of management. They’re nothing without us, they produce no value.
An oldie but a goodie
I always thought Kool-Aid just tasted like water
It did in our house because mom wouldn’t add sugar.
I didn’t realize you were supposed to add sugar
Antitheism and egalitarianism (read anti-feminsm). I was an ubsufferable cunt. Not to excuse my cuntness, I was raised Mormon: condescending hatred of all those not like me was all I knew.
would antitheism be a common thing for recent converts to atheism? i was the same way for a few years back when i ditched christianity.
The zeal of a convert.
I dunno, my crisis of faith went from mourning to anger very quickly. I was quick to anger and held grudges like any immature man back then. Perhaps I just needed to work it out of my system. Now I’m more let live and let live, but it was a slow process filled with people with more patience than I deserved.
I still think organized religion is a net drain on society but I’m generally ok with private faith. (I was raised secular though, never had my own faith to lose)
Me too, I just also think that the antitheist movement (mostly vocal and unempathetic antitheists such as I was) is also a net drain on society.
Did I spark any crisis of faith? Inspire zealots to suddenly care about others humanity? I don’t think so. But, I did spend a lot of time studying doctrine that I now consider wasted. I burned a lot of bridges with people who, rightly, didn’t want to be around me.
I think people create god in their own image. They use doctrine to justify what they would have believed anyway. I was taught to be homophobic by homophobes, Leviticus was just the tool used to deliver the lesson.
Stopping being Mormon didn’t stop my homophobia, the lessons were deep and that came later. I think instead if I had internalised homophobia=bad earlier, I would have left the church as a by product. Internalising bigotry=bad got me to leave antitheism, is where I got that from.
So that’s where I’m at: champion human rights and people will leave toxic structures as a by product.
Tends to be the way things go. You see the flaws in something you believed in and go too far to the extreme opposite direction.
There was a part in my life that I was in the antitheistic crowd, I was annoying, but as I grew up I switched to a more sane viewpoint.
These days I am mostly atheistic but with a healthy dose of agnosticism thrown in.
Elon Musk in his early days. He was fresh, convincing and his ideas sounded good. It turns out they sounded a bit too good. With hindsight he really is the world greatest con-man. Why this still goes on its beyond me, though.
I knew of Tesla and SpaceX and I’d vaguely heard of him but didn’t really care so I wrote him off as another rich asshole immediately. Then I had some friends raving about him going to Mars and saving the world. I almost bought in but within a few weeks of that happening he called the guys who rescued the kids trapped in a cave a pedo just because he couldn’t use his sub. That started my hatred of the man.
In early days of Tesla I felt pretty sure a Tesla was going to be my first car. Now, I’m kind of just happy not having a car at all.
I remember when Reddit was in love with him. I never really engaged with him either way. It’s probably indirectly thanks to him that my opinion on self driving cars has soured, and I theoretically stand to gain the most if it ever becomes a thing since I can’t drive. We shouldn’t try to make a machine learn the messy landscape of roads designed for humans, we should develop better rail and bus infrastructure and make cities more pedestrian-friendly.
wild to think that whole house of cards of his collapsed because his PR person wanted a raise and being the greedy little ratfuck he is he refused.
cleanly they earned it
kimd of makes me wonder who all else out there is a complete piece of shit but we just don’t know/realize it
Never heard about this. Do you have a source I can get some further reading on this?
don’t have any links off the top of my head but it should be easy enough to find.
it could just all be coincidence but the timing of public-facing downfall and that event seems too good to be true imo.
Ok I’ll have a look. Thnx for the interesting info
Report back. I remember somethingabout there being a musk cleanup team who followed him around and put right everything he meddled with. But internet search is so shit now that this is the best I can find. SpaceX employees denounce CEO Musk as ‘distraction’ in letter
I used to be a bit of a Microsoft shill, after the first known knowledge of “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.”
I saw them as an underdog in topics like the phone market, gaming, and a few other subjects, and wanted the competitors to try a bit harder instead of controlling market dominance. I’m still sad MS lost out with their HTML5 engine and went to WebKit - even if I root Firefox, having more competitors against WebKit is a good thing.
What shifted me over was first, them firing the team that made Hi-Fi Rush, Xbox’s ONLY claim to GOTY, and then learning how much they lick Netanyahu’s boots. My PC runs Linux now.
(WebKit is Safari, which is related; but you’re thinking of Chromium/Blink)
Yes, but the inverse is also true. Chromium derives from Webkit, and the two were maintained in close proximity for a while.
From ordinary routes, Gecko, MSIE, and Webkit are the true “origins” of the web. Even if many considered it the worse one, losing MSIE, especially after its devs had given it a big boost in standards compliance, was a blow to shared standards.
OK but Chromium browsers are no longer WebKit. They’ve diverged pretty far. And the root there was khtml.
Agree on more options being good. We also lost Presto (Opera) too.
