Even with LG’s concession, it may become more difficult to avoid chatbots on TVs.
LG says it will let people delete the Copilot icon from their TVs soon, but it still has plans to weave the service throughout webOS. The Copilot web app rollout seems to have been a taste of LG’s bigger plans to add Copilot to some of its 2025 OLED TVs. In a January announcement, LG said Copilot will help users find stuff to watch by “allowing users to efficiently find and organize complex information using contextual cues.” LG also said Copilot would “proactively” identify potential user problems and offer “timely, effective solutions.”
Some TVs from LG’s biggest rival, Samsung, have included Copilot since August. Owners of supporting 2025 TVs can speak to Copilot using their remote’s microphone. They can also access Copilot via the Tizen OS homescreen’s Apps tab or through the TVs’ Click to Search feature, which lets users press a dedicated remote button to search for content while watching live TV or Samsung TV Plus. Users can also ask the TV to make AI-generated wallpapers or provide real-time subtitle translations.
Smart tv’s are awful, doubly so since you cant get “dumb” tv’s anymore. I just dont give my tv wifi access and that seems to pretty much mitigate all the bullshit.
As far as I’m concerned LG is a shithole company. I’ve gone through a TV, dishwasher, and fridge from them and all three had issues just outside warranty. That’s not bad luck thats intentional shitty engineering. Fuck them.
I would be so happy if I could just disable the “magic mouse” (IIRC that’s what it’s called). I once talked to support for an unrelated reason and asked how to do that; they said the only way was to enable on screen narration.
Any time throughout the conversation I asked why those two things were connected, they dodged or outright ignored the question.
I’m on a lg c1 and the magic mouse is disabled. Without narration.
How did you do that?
I’ll double check tonight for you.
Your commas are in the wrong place, and it sent my brain on a wild goose chase of trying to find the closing comma, and then wondering why the quoted text did not make sense as a quote.
I’ve never owned a smart TV. I still don’t see a point in owning one. Why in the world would someone need copilot on their TV?
Copilot is trash
All I want is a DisplayPort and maybe some os with freedom of Linux why is that too much to ask for. The fact I can’t have vrr with my $600 GPU is absolute bullshit
The problem is, you can never trust companies whose products can update over the air. (like “smart TVs”). The company can promise all kinds of things they won’t do and then sneak something awful into a future update. I will spend a little more on “non-smart / no WiFi” TVs in the future.
Just don’t connect the TV to wifi?
How exactly?
They don’t make no Wifi TVs. You can choose to not give it your Wifi Password.
And please don’t say digital signage. That costs 10x what a TV does and the picture is significantly worse.
Here’s a 32" one on Amazon. Found it in just a few seconds.
I haven’t updated my LG TV in over 2 years. I just know it’s going to be some useless shit that just makes it worse with more ads and AI
They added chromecast to mine this year which has been useful.
Using that would require having my TV connected to the internet, which I refuse to do.
We need a custom replacement ROMs like Lineage or Graphene for smart TVs.
Is there a manufacturer that doesn’t ship a bunch of bloat with its televisions? Maybe Panasonic or Sony?
I have a Hisense that I’ve never connected to the internet. It has an input button on the remote, and I just use that to go between inputs. I’m only reminded it’s a smart TV when the power goes out and I see the Google TV boot screen.
Monitors and projectors also work.
As far as I know, none. “Smart” in smart TVs means ads, data collection and profit, they aren’t about to leave money on the table.
The only way to get “dumb” TVs is to purchase digital signage TVs meant for in-store displays and other business use. In fact, they’re better than ordinary TVs with improved cooling and rated lifespans, specially designed to run 24 hours a day in a cafe or smth.
Unfortunately, companies don’t sell it to individuals, you have to buy it as a company. You either have to buy used or set up your own shell company. I’m this close to setting up a fake company to buy a TV, but I’m not sure if it’ll work. Hopefully there’s no secret legally binding TOS or smth.
I am genuinely curious, this whole thing is most likely an effort to sell more TVs, but does that actually work? Is there a significant segment of customers which buys TVs based on whether or not it has a (link to a) chatbot in it? Or did some exec just decide “our products need to have AI now” with 0 research done.
I would really like to see data on this.
Or did MS pay them to include it, knowing they could hoover up a lot of data, perhaps even with a clause in the contract to also share that data with LG?
They do it because those TVs are selling.
What many people seem to misunderstand today dramatically is that no sane major manufacturer will push a genuinely risky feature. On the contrary, if something like this makes it into a product, it’s because there is an expectation of immediate or medium-term profit, backed by extensive market research. Companies aren’t stupid; they are highly optimised for this kind of decision-making. And I would honestly be glad to be proven wrong.
In other words, if the feature is there, it means that people either like it or simply don’t care enough to make it into a problem.
And here’s the hot take: don’t blame the manufacturer, blame the people. Collectively consumers have shown almost no resistance to the ongoing enshitification of the last decade.
I’m glad you’re opposed to it, and many people here are too, but in the bigger picture it is just a drop in the ocean, unfortunately.
That hot take ignores human psychology’s known weaknesses.
Blaming the public for falling victim to psychological manipulation that has been being perfected for generations is like blaming a stabbing victim for bleeding so much.
This crap is why my LG TV lost its internet privileges last year and built a htpc to do all my media needs.
I already barely watch the TV I have, and it never goes online.
The Internet sucks now, and I’ve got shit to do. Gimme a reason to stop looking at screens. I fucking dare you.
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the irony
