• Apytele@sh.itjust.works
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    24 hours ago

    This is my gripe with tankies. One of the most salient points of 1984:

    “It was now impossible for any human being to prove by documentary evidence that the war with Eurasia had ever happened.”

    “Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.”

    All war is fake except the class war.

    • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 hours ago

      China has many more socialized services and their income level is far less indicative of overall quality of life

      It has honestly been a long time since I heard someone in the west suggest the chinese economy is struggling at all - i thought maybe something meaningful had happened in the last week or something that changed that picture

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      An interesting question is which of these 2 numbers is most important. The PPP income measurements could be flawed if the poorest half of Chinese have been able to accumulate double the wealth as poorest half of Americans.

      Even if “attitudes towards savings” are different/a factor, being able to survive while hoping for the upward mobility that savings/wealth provides is more likely than not, a sign that poorer half of Chinese are better off than poorer half of Americans, despite the standard measures of PPP income.

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      22 hours ago

      Interesting graphs. China does have a lot of very poor provinces, even if high number out of official poverty levels. PPP income per capita is much higher in China than US and growing significantly.

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      2 days ago

      yeah needs to match on both sides either “the americans and the chinese” or “americans and chinese” not this weird othering mix.

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        To be fair, they’re not entirely equivalent. I wouldn’t bristle at all at being called “an American,” but I would never call someone “a Chinese.” In the plural form with a definite article, it doesn’t feel as bad, but I’d probably prefer to say “Chinese people,” whereas “American people” feels a little clunky, though it’s probably the best option if you want to keep both terms the same.

        I don’t think this is necessarily a racist thing though, because I’d probably be fine saying “the French/ Congolese /Japanese*” and “Guatemalans/ Nigerians/ Tibetans/ Swedes.” Demonyms are definitely a weird area of language that feels biased when you see a direct comparison though.

        *interestingly, I couldn’t think of a “new world” country where I would say “the+singular demonym,” but it does sound right for some tribal nations, like “the Hopi/Navajo.” I don’t think it’s uniform though, because “Pequots/Algonquins” sound much better than “the Pequot/Algonquin” to me and I’m not sure why.

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          It’s still generally Hopis and Navajos. Usually you see the “the” definite article added when it’s referring to actual whole groups, example: “The Navajo (tribal govt or tribe as a whole) are fighting against X” as compared to “Navajos (people) are fighting against X”

        • Language is so weird tbh.

          Like I’d feel comfortable saying I’m an American, but like “I’m a Chinese” sounds so like… gramatically wrong.

          Like, idk if its the -ese suffix. Or ifs its because the term “Chinese” can be 中国人 (Chinese National),华人 (Chinese Person (as in ethnicity)),中文 (Chinese Language),中国的 (China’s),华裔 (Ethnic Chinese),汉字 (Chinese Characters)… so it feels so like imprecise as a term, where as “I’m Chinese” is obviously refering to ethnicity (or nationality)

          When someone say “the Chinese”, like when they refer to China’s success or failures, as in “the Chinese have managed to do XYZ”, idk why, but I half expect the speaker to be subconciously racist for some reason… like I feel like that phrase is categorizing me into the CCP’s decisions… like as if they’re assuming I’m part of a monolith that doesn’t have independent thoughts or something.

          Maybe it’s just me and I’m overthinking this weird grammer rules.

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            11 hours ago

            I would say “the Chinese invented many things in the last two millennia.” And “China is constantly posturing against Taiwan” to separate the people from their government.

            “The Chinese” doesn’t have to be racist it can just include all the people of the region across all times. It can be a bit ignorant but doesn’t flag maliciousness

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      OK, so I’m one of the original SJWs

      I’m old and have a bit of a reputation for getting in the face of the ignorant, which isn’t always wise, but I’m a principled cunt

      But there is a point where the little things don’t fucking matter when the person clearly doesn’t have any malicious intent, and only someone trying to be offended would have a problem

      To whit, I was asking an indigenous friend whether they prefer “indigenous” or “aboriginal” when I’m speaking to them.

      They said “the fact that you’re even asking means that you’re obviously not a part of the problem, so pull the stick out of your arse”

      I suggest you do the same.

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          11 hours ago

          Na that’s a pretty common reaction to the SWJ language policing. Most oppressed minorities want their equal rights; not a mob or privileged kids virtue signaling and alienating them further 🌈

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            I’m insulted that you superimposed your SJW language policing on top of my linguistic pedantry then planted a battleflag. Fight the good fight, just do it somewhere its needed.

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          Think about this, we made major advancements politically and culturally during 2006-2016, especially in regards to LGBTQ rights and then the voters turn Trans people into a single issue ticket and vote for trump 12 years in a row. They turned you into a woke boogie man and campaign against you specifically and now we live in a fucking Nazi hell hole.

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      We aren’t bringing back “Chinamen” if that’s what you’re asking.

      …I did type it, tho just to see how it looked.

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    This post is misinformation.

    Statistical Communiqué for 2024 on national economics by the National Bureau of Statistics of China:

    “In 2024, the per capita disposable income nationwide was 41,314 yuan, an increase of 5.3 percent over that of the previous year or a real increase of 5.1 percent after deducting price factors”

    Tell me how growing your disposable income by 5% a year is “not being able to afford anything”

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    isn’t china struggling with deflation nowadays, though? they can afford things perfectly well, they just don’t do it

    (correct me if i’m wrong i know fuck all about economics)

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      It‘s not going well for the average Chinese worker in recent years from what I‘ve heard. The pandemic and crumbling real estate market followed by countries diversifying their economies away from China (albeit slowly) and Trumps arbitrary trade war aren‘t good prospects for China. Xi Jinping‘s rhetoric in speeches went from „prosperity for all“ before the pandemic to „prosperity in moderation“ to essentially saying people shouldn‘t expect anything at all in his „eat bitter“ speech last year and that was before tariffs. Order books are empty and unemployment is rising just like it is in many places of the world right now to be honest. These are economically turbulent times and export economies are struggling when nobody can afford shit.

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    23 hours ago

    It’s been so fun seeing USians freak out at the remote prospect that they might have to live like people in other countries do. USians on Reddit spent the entire 2023 complaining about prices of Doordash delivery, and then they’re also irked that games cost 60$ now. But cooking at home for a couple days instead of ordering pizza again? Not an option. “Ooh we have to work all day, we don’t have time for cooking.” Well guess how people eat in other countries? They cook at home after work. Boo fucking hoo.

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      It’s very funny how consistently ignorant you people are while you’re putting on your “me smart and better than those silly Ameridumbs” act

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        Yeah, so ignorant, we even know how to cook. Unlike the enlightened USians who just have someone else cook for them every day and have yet another guy bring it. And are terrified of having to buy less junk.

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    I can only afford
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