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I will, got some theory on my reading list as well :)

Listen, random people on the internet try to shame me all the time. It happens even when I don’t interact. But it’s no indication if a viewpoint is “correct” or whatever.

Also, agreeing with you about genocides or the events in certain parts of the world or anything is completely separate from supporting you. MLs seem to think that they’re one in the same, that anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with them are enemies. Even if I did agree with you, black-and-white broad-stroke insults make people not want to work with you.

Just want to say thank you for understanding :) I absolutely agree about the genocide in Gaza and any invented “white genocide.” But with something like Xinjiang, I don’t think I can make a call about it, you know? I appreciate your understanding that it’s not as clear-cut to everyone about what’s going on in the world. It doesn’t necessarily make me agree or disagree with you, but it absolutely makes want more to be an ally of yours.

I didn’t make my point clear. I don’t have any strong opinions on these matters I brought up, outside “genocide is bad” and other basic ethics. I’m admitting I don’t know much about them, not due to apathy but due to… just information fucking overload. It’s absurd to equate me with white supremacists just because I can’t keep up with everything going on in the world to exacting detail.

Are… are you trying to shame me into agreeing with you? Does the “militant” in Militant Leftist actually mean rageposting and not armed resistance?

That’s very diplomatic, and I appreciate you taking my question seriously. But Dess is a core personality of the Lemmyverse and insulting a huge swathes of people using their platform really puts a lot of distance between the ML community and people they could potentially sway.

Unless MLs aren’t interested in swaying more people to their side and just want to preach to the choir.

Wait, I’m a white supremacist because I don’t want China - or anyone else - to manipulate Tibet or persecute Uygurs? I’m a Klansman because I lean to supporting Taiwan’s independence?

Do, like, MLs just hate everyone? Honestly, why are MLs so extremely hostile to people they don’t 100% agree with?

1. No, I didn’t
2. Are you an ML? If so, why are MLs so antagonistic to non-ML lefties? American Democrats, I can understand, but why be so extremely dichotomous about who your allies are?

We don’t need anti-American propaganda, we already hate America, my guy

Thanks sharkfucker420

Benn Jordan is one of my favorite musicians, YouTubers, and people in the world. Highly recommended

Speaking of Mulder, Lynch was a gem of a person that this sorry world didn’t deserve.

YOU’LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP, HEARING’S GONE. GOT THESE THINGS CRANKED UP TO THE MAX

WHAT?

A bad workman blames their tools

FTFY

Oh ok. I understand better. Thank you for taking the time to explain it :)

I see MLs talk about “liberalism” and, correctly or not, I think of the French Revolution. It seems though that that term is instead of “neoliberalism,” I think (?). I can see the narrative that “liberalism” and “fascism” are like masks that capitalist structures wear, like modes of operation. But it’s also confusing because those two concepts don’t descend directly from fascism.

And I think I’m picking up that ML is a the revolutionary part of expanding communism, and I guess that’s why it’s not just Marxism? Because Marx foresaw the fundamental changes that needed to happen, and Lenin instantiated it? I haven’t read Marx yet, it’s on my list of shame, I suppose 😅

Since we have an open dialogue, I’m also curious of your opinion about "tankie"ism. Specifically, why not-so-pro-communist people see MLs as tankies that defend or deny authoritarian crimes against humanity.

I have to admit this may be a failing in my own political education. 😅 Why do you think liberalism and fascism are “the same ideology in different circumstances”? I think McCarthyism is a modern example of violent anti-communism, and I agree, that got really close to fascism. (Although I could argue that violent anti-anything would lead to fascism.)

I’m wondering if, like, Marxism-Leninism is something like “communism is what organized societies would naturally look like, and everything else is an authority asserting itself unfairly” sort of mindset.

So, when you say “anti-communism”, do you mean an organized front resisting and opposing communism, or just anyone who has an non-pro-communist opinion?

I imagine if I said something like “yeah capitalism has failed us, but that doesn’t mean I want a planned economy” you might respond by saying I’m a wishy-washy centrist.

Have you asked Grok about the Jewish Holocaust?