I saw the whole RFK and CDC debacle, how the agency is being weaponized to be antivax, and I cannot for the life of me understand what is happening. What does RFK has to gain with stopping vacines? What does the government gains from it? It cannot be just for show political streght, is it? Just to say “ha, in your face!” and then cause huge troubles for themselves down the road? There must be something they will have right now. But what is it? Money? Contracts? Favours?
RFK is a member of The Faction, they are trying to overthrow The Director.
DO NOT SEND 001!
My guess is Russian money and/or kompromat… For single individuals
Two possibilities…
- RFK does have a supplement/snake oil business(?) if I recall correctly, so he does have a personal stake in “MAHA”
- This sounds nuts but there is a possibility that he really believes what he is doing is correct, and became a useful idiot in the process
And don’t forget the people within CDC who are more involved… I will never forgive Jayantha “Jay” Bhattacharya and Matthew Memoli for dismantling the NIH. Btw the motive for Bhattacharya was very clear: he was an economist who proposed a fringe theory on COVID that was widely criticized, but then doubled down and essentially became entrenched in antivax himself. Which is also why I wonder if RFK also got high on his own supply
Follow the money trails
The Right hates the idea of an effective government that works for the people. They will tell you the the New Deal was a failure even though FDR was elected four times.
RFK is a useful idiot. The richest are going to get great healthcare no matter what. But if they can break people’s idea that the government is there to help them, then the Right can break OSHA, laws that protect consumer rights, and anything else that keeps them from making more money.
The right wing voters already believe OSHA is just an obstruction tog getting the job done. OSHA is the reason your climbing harness has interlocking double carabiners. Else, your job would only pay for one carabiner. Maybe.
OSHA rules aren’t here to treat your job like a daycare. The rules are here because employers will fuck over their employees as close to the letter of the law as they can. No laws, no holding back.
RFK has a business selling snake oil. All those at the root of the antivaxx movement (and iirc that’s only 7 people) have something to sell.
They’re working off of incorrect information & ideas. They think people will be better off not getting vaccinated. They genuinely think they’re doing a good thing. They don’t think we’ll have resurgences of diseases at any large scale because they don’t attribute the disappearance of those diseases to vaccines. They believe society will be relieved from some vaccine induced “side-effects” like increased autism (or 5G mind control… or whatever… it’s hard to keep track of their nonsense).
Since they accept the above falsehoods; they don’t need to “get” anything. They’re as certain stopping vaccinations will help the general population as I am that it will do harm. But some idiot(s) put them in charge so they get to execute on their campaign promises.
They genuinely think they’re doing a good thing.
No they don’t. Some are simply stupid, others are genuinely evil.
They absolutely think they are doing good…
Pretty unanimously, the most evil people to walk the planet all legitimately believe they’re the good guys.
Almost no one sees themselves as a villain, that’s just how the human brain is wired.
People not understanding this, is why evil shit keeps fucking happening.
If you just keep writing them off as “villains” doing evil for the sake of evil, we’ll never learn how to stop it. That literally why they keep coming back.
I broadly agree but there’s not necessarily anything altruistic about the “good” that they’re doing—they’ve just found a way to justify what they want/decide to do, same as everyone. They don’t have to believe it’s good for people or the world. As long as they can find a reason why those harms don’t matter, or convince themselves that those people/the world would’ve been fucked regardless, or figure at least they’re not doing [insert some other scenario they can imagine], they can live with themselves. And they can focus on who it is good for (their kids perhaps, and all the people in their lives who are undoubtedly pressuring them to abuse their power).
I just wanted to speak up for that nuance, because to me “they think they’re doing good” implies that they value the ideals of doing actual good…and I don’t think there’s necessarily true.
Pretty unanimously, the most evil people to walk the planet all legitimately believe they’re the good guys.
Nah, the majority of evil people are doing stuff that benefits them personally, not for some misguided altruistic purpose that makes for good villains in fiction. Trump, Putin, and all of the rest sre just looking out for themselves and sometimes their families/contacts at the expense of everyone else.
Yes, but they honestly believe that’s the right thing to do. Or at least they’ve convinced themselves that it’s excusable. They believe they have a right to do things for themselves at the expense of others. That’s why they won’t ever have remorse. It takes more intelligence to empathize with others; they don’t have that. It’s actually kinda sad.
People who wig out and do what they know is evil are very distraught, and often suicidal.None of that describes someone who thinks they are ‘one of the good guys’.
But it does describe an embattled hero surrounded by villains on the snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.
Heroes kill people all the time in stories. We don’t disparage the hero because they killed because it was for a good cause. And like imagine if the hero didn’t kill the bad guy and next week you’re dealing with the bad guy again. Clearly RFK and friends are fighting the good fight and have to defeat the bad guys once and for all.
Obviously to me it’s BS but the point is that they might see the bad stuff and justify it because of the greater good or whatever. We’ve learned through countless tales that ends don’t justify the means and doing bad things for the greater good is usually bad and often terrible. But we also have an imagination and empathy. And know how to read.
Fiction is full of stories that teach you right from wrong. The distinction gets more complicated as we get older so we use stories to explore the ideas. WE do that, our current leaders do not. And because of that they are lacking in empathy and didn’t see the patterns that they are following. And don’t see the history that they are rhyming with.
No, it describes a self entitled narcissist abusing others for their own gain.
But they get validation. It’s not just that they think their ideas and information is correct. They are correct and doctors and entire industries are wrong or corrupt. That makes them smarter than those eggheads that went to school for sometimes a decade and have spent further decades with their face in a microscope. After decades of education and dedicated research somehow Cletus from BFE, Dumbfuckistan and Google was able to best them intellectually.
And your explanation for the ones who always get the vaccines themselves but spread lies about how other people shouldn’t?
Science has become political, projecting an antivax attitude resonates with the rubes. Nothing more to it.
A sicker population means more money for the executives that own medical facilities and insurance companies.
Not just that, but a poor, struggling society is easier to rule over. People are too worried about staying alive to fight the system.
It also means selling merch for the leaders pushing it (like RFKjr.)
Frequently dangerous merch.
eugenics
if the
peoplehuman livestock who need medical treatment to live are allowed to die, then the babies of the survivors will be cheaper to maintain because they’ll need less medical treatment“God will protect us. He has sent judgement on those unworthy” also contributes. Not directly eugenics, but damn fucking close
Remember the death camps, weaponized viruss’ and population control they accused the left of doing?
Turns out it was projection the entire time
It’s all just more of the MAGA crowds overwhelming need to “own the libs” at all costs. It’s kind of like the flat earth movement. It started off as a joke perpetuated by a bunch of trolls with nothing better to do, but once it grew to a certain point a bunch of people joined in who were too stupid to understand that it wasn’t supposed to be this serious. Now everyone in power is too embarrassed to try and undo any of the harm so they’re all just doubling down even though they know it’s all bullshit because they’d rather everyone think they were right even if it destroys society than to ever admit they might have made a mistake.
State sanctioned dilution of what it means for things to be true. It’s not about the vaccines, it’s about getting people to accept falsehoods.
They aren’t causing trouble for themselves as they will always have access to the vaccines that they need.
It’s all about control.
If you can convince your cannon fodder to disregard their own health outcomes, you can convince them to go along with pretty much anything.
Then you just hand them their marching orders, and they comply, regardless of their personal consequences.
under capitalism, people just sick enough and certainly scared to be sicker, will not be healthy enough to do other things that may help them realize they don’t need to be exploited. it’s certainly not the only facet of how we are corralled into larger profits for the owners but it is one example.
For instance, the reason why minimum wage jobs do not have set work hours for most people is that having a constantly changing schedule that varies every single week makes it harder for people to do things that can break the cycle.
Things like, going to college or go to a trade school or participating in external events that would allow them to meet other people that could give them a leg up in the world.
Don’t blame your manager or even the regional manager of the story you work for. This policy is being passed down from on high. Your manager is simply forced to do it.
Chances are they are just in the slightly more profitable portion of the cycle. Their increased paycheck comes in part from gently oppressing their co-workers in service of their masters.
