I use Vesktop, it has a flatpak release and flatpak auto-updates it for me. Also it includes Vencord, so I can add as many plugins and custom themes I want.
I fucking hate discord.
No wait.
I fucking hate the people who use discord.
All that work, and it’s a web wrapper.
When l was on it I saw no point in running it outside a browser tab
Idk about you, but for me Manjaro just auto manages that via AUR. dont even have to do anything.
Huh, why does it use the AUR for discord? In Arch it’s just part of the Extra repo.
That repo always seems to lag quite a bit behind official releases. Multiple times on arch I’ve edited config files to have it lie about its version number to get it to keep working.
Samesies, but on EndeavourOS
Why do you need to update so much, Discord? What the hell are you doing? Suspicious. Very suspicious.
Does the same on windows. Either they’re constantly changing some really deep stuff that we don’t see or notice, or it’s not actually updating just “checking” for updates or loading but it’s just slow AF.
Nah, this isn’t the launcher doing checks and applying patches, I mean like I gotta download a new .deb (basically .exe) file with an incremental difference in the version number and unpack it over the old install.
Ridiculously frequently. Like, once a week at the very least.
Okay Jesus, I think that’s just someone at discord smoking something.
i just use this bad boy
Btw
Yay!
Was going to say. I’ve been lucky. My only experience with Discord has been
sudo pacman -S discord. I barely use it, but I have some friends I keep in touch with on it.Hell yeah
"SKIP_HOST_UPDATE": trueIf you really need to use discord, use the flatpak version or better yet, use Vesktop.
This. Use Vesktop. Expand the features of Discord while outright blocking the shit.
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Or better yet, host your own TeamSpeak server.
Speaking of which, are there any decent FOSS alternatives? Discord got banned in my homecountry and forcing it through VPN or proxy is a total pain in the ass. Forced my friends to move to TS as that’s what we used back in the day… like a decade ago, but maybe there’s something modern and more open nowadays?
Teamspeak doesn’t even have a fraction of Discord’s features. It’s a bad alternative.
from what i know either Matrix or Revolt
Revolt is more closer to discord but Matrix is better cause it has ee2e, you can host your own server and my favorite feature ClientsAre you looking for something like mumble?
Yeah, voice chat is all we need.
Get yourself a cheap root server, install murmur and never look back.
Peersuite
There was a post recently on c/privacy for a self hostable (relaying) peer-to-peer web based option! Its effectively release 1.0 and has some bugs (some serious security ones at the moment), but I think it has lots of promise!!
I’ll go grab the link for the post I saw…
teamspeak 6 (beta) is pretty nice.
Sick! Are you running a Linux client? Last I checked the self-hosted V6 server binary hadn’t released, if it’s finally out I’ll drop a brick!!
no, but afaik you can join ts3 servers on ts6, also tgey have a linux client. but im currently unsure if i installed it via pacman or AUR, but you can download a binary from their website
Nah, still no v6 server. At least, not on their main download page 🥲
https://flathub.org/apps/com.discordapp.Discord
Packaging desktop apps via deb (or other system package managers) is obsolete and should be frowned upon.
cue the angry comments from cranky old people
@gamer @DesertDwellingWeirdo
>discord
>desktop apps
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Also, packaging electron to flatpak sounds most stupid idea ever…Sandboxing proprietary apps and containerising their outdated dependencies is a good thing.
@monogram is not electron already have sandbox?
Yes the built in browser sandboxes the website code, but the nodejs part has full freedom to encrypt your stuff and ask for bitcoin ransoms or ai scrape your browser history for better user profiling. YMMV
Just use a flatpak sheesh
~/.config/discord/settings.json
"SKIP_HOST_UPDATE": true,
Ooohh a useful response.
Wait seriously? Does this stop it from forcing me to update it when an update is available but it’s not in my package manager yet?
Yes. I can confirm, it works even on Gentoo. But I stick to the Flatpak version, anyway, because there I was able to tell it to use Xwayland instead of wayland directly (through Flatseal).
It seems the wayland support isn’t great yet and it tries to grab keys combination that are reserved for my window manager (Gnome). In the flatpak sandbox I don’t have any issues.
Only game running game detection will not work in the sandbox.
Or is there even a setting to tell it, using the X11 backend so that the keybind issues for the native version go away?
I just use the web version of discord :)
cause i have more control on the web version and i dislike electron
i cannot leave discord at this timeEver since the update where screen sharing works FINALLY natively in plasma I just used the flatpak discord
I have to use Discord Canary for that but yeah. Flatpak all the way.
Well that’s just their beta branch of discord, the main branch now has the screen share fix, been using it for a few months now
In all honesty I just use the browser now as that’s been the best experience with Discord for me.
Third party apps are way better than the native client
Yup this. Tho if matrix gets desktop streaming I’m gone.
Element already has desktop streaming as an experimental feature. Worked fine last i tested it. Currently planning how to trick my social circle into using it.
I also want to go check out the new TeamSpeak, it’s supposed to be a decent Discord alternative - Even though Discord originally replaced it.
That’s great news. Well now discord rewards users for viewing ads, it’s looking like time to leave soon.
I fucking hate discord. Hope they ruin it.
Discord was really good in the first couple years. Way better than the alternatives in almost everything except sound quality. And getting virusses wasn’t as easy as it was on TeamSpeak3 back then.
Thats the thing…there’s no way ill convince people to get off discord now that they just got comfortable with it all.
Fr, I have tried but unfortunately my friends are mostly normal people
Yeah exactly or they just say we are trying to be superior and annoying tech autists xD
I have been using Discord since the beginning in 2015 and back then I got people to Discord because it was cheap and offered more features. Currently the only way I convince people to swtich from Discord (or from Whatsapp) is either if they are privacy focussed or the alternative is way more convient or cheaper.
How did you solve the audio issue with element for Linux?
Element has audio issues on Linux? Didn’t notice it when I tested whether Matrix had what I needed (a month past). I’ll see if it screws up if I try again now.
Audio doesn’t seem to stream over Element regardless of operating system, I’m on Debian 12 and my buddies are on Windows, neither stream audio.
Also Mobile devices lack streaming out-right.
That’s weird. I just tested it with a friend (I’m on Endeavour, she’s on Win11, the server is VPS with Debian running the newest Synapse and Element-web). Audio works fine both ways with no mic config required, streaming is a little laggy when viewing the screen and stream next to each other, but that’s all.
EDIT: No, you’re right. Audio within streams seem to fail. I remember Discord having the same problem (hence why I use Vesktop), but if Windows also suffers this shortcoming? I’m pretty sure I remember it working a month ago, so there should be a bug report in Synapse (or element).
This has been an issue for over 4 years. not sure why it seems to be neglected by the maintainers/contributors.
Edit: Maybe it was patched? I don’t have the time at the moment to dive deep into this topic, will try to get back to this later today.
Edit 2: briefly looking around seems like this persisted in 2023
get fluffychat :)
When you use the Discord app, you use a browser - Chromium specifically: Discord is an electro app.
In other word, if you already run a browser that burns hundreds of megabytes of RAM, disk, and requires tons of CPU do display simplistic things, as browsers do, you might as well use it to access Discord instead of running a second insanely wasteful browser disguised as a native app.
Vesktop
When I do, audio slowly shifts to one ear only, perhaps over 20m. Then I have to leave the channel and come back to reset it. This does not happen anywhere else, and also doesn’t happen on the desktop app, so I have to use that.
Oh shit I forgot that was an option lmao. Deleting the app once I get home lol
Discord has become really annoying to use with all the ads. I confine it to my browser because I don’t trust it.
With that said, I used to run Flatpak version and it never had this issue.
Recently, while it was “out of date” and refusing to run but not yet updated in the Arch repo, I started wondering why I don’t just use the website. I now use the website.
Same! Never have to worry about updates anymore its great!
I don’t get it - on Mint I click the Discord icon and just use Discord, same as on Windows.
That’s mint tho. I’ve used it off and on for more than a decade myself and I’m still scared of other distros.
It really is baby’s first distro. Easy mode for someone coming from windows. And I love it for that. I really do. But im not a programmer. I would be lost as a mfer with some distros.
I am a programmer and I love Mint, because I can just use it instead of having one more thing in my life that I have to fuss with.
I think that’s often the case for anyone that has spent enough time using Linux. After 20 years, I just can’t be bothered with needing to be all that proactive in managing any distro. I just want to use the bloody stupid box. I’m enjoying using Aurora right now. Atomic distros require even less effort from me.
Yknow what this reminds me of? Chefs and how at work they make these masterpieces while at home they’re making like grilled cheese and slightly fancy ramen. Its great.
Like car mechanics have crappy cars that barely hold together.
Mint is for those who don’t need to brag about things.
For civilized folk, you know.
