HP’s long-running use of firmware updates that block third-party ink and toner cartridges is drawing scrutiny again – this time under a new global sustainability standard that explicitly forbids the practice.
The International Imaging Technology Council (Int’l ITC), a trade group for cartridge remanufacturers, says HP’s latest printer firmware rollout conflicts with the requirements of the General Electronics Council’s (GEC) updated Electronic Product Environmental Assessment Tool, or EPEAT 2.0.
It isn’t just third party ink.
They block their own damn cartridges from being used in their own damn printers if that cartridge has been used in another printer.
They also block it if a cartridge was purchased through their subscription plan and you no longer subscribe.
I got a cheap Xerox laser printer, the toner is cheap and lasts forever.
I still use a Brother laser printers, that’s at least 15 years old. Got it for free a decade ago. It just keeps printing.
I got ecotank, I can literally pour any ink I want inside and it works fine. Why would anyone buy HP?
How are Xerox laser printers compared to other printers you used?
It’s a cheap Chinese made, it prints when I turn it on and that’s like every two months for the last 3 years. So I guess it’s good. I also only use it to print from linux or my phone.
I paid $0.01 for a flash drive at Microcenter and $0.10 per page(or job, I don’t know) to print at the library. I don’t even have a library card there. I learned enough about printers taking an A+ class to not want to fuck around with printers at home.
Wait how did you pay 1 cent for a flash drive? I mean they’re cheap but I’ve never seen them for that cheap.
It was what their mailer offers. One for me one for a friend. That or an equivalent microSD card. I got 128 gigs friend got 32. Either or more than enough for a quick print job. Both have a clear plastic shell which is probably cheap but it looks neat. Its “free” but the register rings it up as a penny. Not like I could bang out 128GB storage from the copper in one penny. I had already ordered a trackball mouse I just went over there to look at what they had while I could still change my mind. Walked out with an energy drink and the flash drive. Really broke the bank.
If it’s one of the Inland Microcenter branded ones, I believe I’ve seen tests run on those and they have really short lifespans, just a handful of years. So just use it for file transfers and not for any long term storage.
It doesn’t say Inland on it but I got my penny’s worth out of it already. To be quite honest I never had a flash drive until a few weeks ago. It made going to the library to print so much easier than logging into email there or owning and upkeeping a printer at home. By the time it craps out I’ll have gotten another mailer. Thanks for the heads up though.
Probably some “sale” for when you purchase something else for $50 at 50% markup. Bonus of adding to “sales” tally for some generations old dogshit flash drive they otherwise could not sell.
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Was given a HP LaserJet before 2020. It’s been over 5 years. I have yet to replace toner in it. And I was given a BUNCH of toner for it. Injets are a joke.
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A colour laser ?
Edit: Were you gifted a colour laser?
Color laser printers have been around for a while. Color quality is worse than an ink jet. So if you’re printing high quality photos, it’s not ideal. It’s good enough though and the other advantages of laser remain.
You misunderstood my question. I was asking whether the laser printer was a colour one or not. I guess I could have been a bit clearer though.
The only reason I would buy an HP printer, is to sue them after.
Just bust the printer mafia already!
I bought an HP printer once and im never doing that again. The best printers ive had has all been Brother.
Bought a brother B&W laser a decade ago. Just replaced the toner it came with, with extra toner I purchased at the time… It’s a two pack, it may outlast me…
One of the only things I regret leaving my ex-fiance was our Brother Wifi Scanner/Printer. That thing was awesome.
The laser jets are actually fine for small office use. It’s the ink jets that you have to avoid.
Wow you have to really suck for the joke certification EPEAT to be mad at you. It’s a fake label that manufactures control to greenwash unrepairable garbage.
Time for a small fine
HP: “just some business cost.”
Never buy HP! Never! They are scum!
Hp printer is in my banned list for decades already.
The moment you realize it’s sometimes profitable for corporations to actively waste resources, it becomes clear that our current economic system is incompatible with environmental care.
Only? What about all the other right to repair and freedom of choice laws?
Imagine bricking a car because it filled up at a competitive brands gas station.
Honey I am going to do fill up the Honda and the Honda station!
New rule: printer cartridges, ink, paper, drums, or any supply needed to operate the device may not be sold with authentication features. The printer can not know any detail about what’s put into it aside from is or is not present. Done.
it’s been at least 15 years that I’ve known better than to buy any HP products. Still - fuck their CEO(s) with a rusty rebar.
