Flight crews cannot declare a passenger dead. Therefore it is a medical emergency until a qualified medical professional does so. A physician on board might do so, but that gets muddy real quick legally.
Also, the diversion for a likely dead person isn’t for the dead person, it’s for the family that would sue the airline for carrying on for however long to the destination. They’d argue whether or not the person might have had a chance had they diverted. So legally and financially an airline will try to get seriously ill or potentially dead people off the plane as soon as practical.
Can’t they just make sure they are dead? Put a plastic bag on their head or something? If there’s an air marshal on the flight they might have a gun. That would resolve any doubts about their chances real quick.
Obvious examples that may not require the attendance of a medical professional to pronounce death would be a decapitated or badly decomposed body, multiple body disruptive trauma, where a body is severely burnt or has been subjected to prolonged submersion or has been predated by animals (where the body is missing essential parts).
I was an EMT and we were taught you do CPR until pronouncement, except if there’s obvious signs of mortality, of which decapitation is one. Livor/rigor mortis. Shoes off. All obvious signs of mortality.
I was once told by an EMT that you do CPR unless the spine is clearly severed in any place. Basically the person doesn’t have to be cut in half at the neck. Anywhere above legs counts.
Flight crews cannot declare a passenger dead. Therefore it is a medical emergency until a qualified medical professional does so. A physician on board might do so, but that gets muddy real quick legally.
Also, the diversion for a likely dead person isn’t for the dead person, it’s for the family that would sue the airline for carrying on for however long to the destination. They’d argue whether or not the person might have had a chance had they diverted. So legally and financially an airline will try to get seriously ill or potentially dead people off the plane as soon as practical.
Can’t they just make sure they are dead? Put a plastic bag on their head or something? If there’s an air marshal on the flight they might have a gun. That would resolve any doubts about their chances real quick.
Sounds like something United Airlines would pull.
What if the person is Rasputin?
Check his ID and make sure he’s not.
A doctor AND a lawyer, impressive
They’ve put a whole lot of effort into making those things safe and you’re here trying to make them murder vehicles??
Woosh
Aww man? Not again!
They are not that safe if people still die in them…
Well, people do die… Its pretty rare for things to go wrong in planes. In the context of this post it seems quite unrelated
even if the head isn’t attached on the body anymore?
Might vary by location, UK guidelines:
Not sure there are many opportunities for these cases in a flight, but you never know…
I sat next to a cougar on my last flight, and she destroyed my heart.
I think minced by the engine counts
I was an EMT and we were taught you do CPR until pronouncement, except if there’s obvious signs of mortality, of which decapitation is one. Livor/rigor mortis. Shoes off. All obvious signs of mortality.
I was once told by an EMT that you do CPR unless the spine is clearly severed in any place. Basically the person doesn’t have to be cut in half at the neck. Anywhere above legs counts.
Different folks, different policies and procedures. Ours are similar, barring the shoes. We need socks off or hope remains.
I have my shoes off and I am mortal.
This isn’t Highlander.
“Yet.”
January was pretty fucking mental for a lot of us.