• 18107@aussie.zone
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      2 days ago

      I don’t see how this applies to guns.

      If your house is on fire, you would want a fire extinguisher, not another flamethrower.

      • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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        If you have an emergency you want the tool that protects against that emergency.

        If there’s a fire you want a tool to put the fire out. That could be a bucket, but a fire extinguisher works better.

        If you are threatened with a violent person who wants to do you harm, can you name a more effective tool than a gun?

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          Guns don’t work like video game guns. You can shoot a person 10 times and inflict 10 fatal wounds, and they can still keep coming at you.

          If you aim for the head, who is behind them? A bullet doesn’t just stop when it hits something.
          What the chance you’ll miss? A bullet can go a long way if it doesn’t hit your target.

          People take time to die. Other people can be behind your target. Guns don’t protect, they only kill.

      • Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        I personally don’t find it persuasive, just drawing logical parallels isn’t that impressive compared to actual research. But if you can’t understand the analogy, then you’re probably not mentally fit to have a gun anyway.

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      2 days ago

      I’ve never set my house on fire, but I still feel better having a fire extinguisher flame thrower

      The most likely person to shot you is yourself.

      The second most likely person to shot you is a housemate.

      The third most likely person to shot you is a loved one.

      • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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        Look up the stats on defensive gun uses. Just Google it.

        The vast majority (90+%) end with no shots fired- the criminal sees the gun and runs away.

        If someone threatens me and my family I want a better option than ‘hope the violent criminal decides to let us live’.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          Look up the stats on defensive gun uses. Just Google it.

          The vast majority (90+%) end with no shots fired- the criminal sees the gun and runs away.

          Because it’s regularly over reported.

          People call the police and claim they saw/heard a thing, then grabbed a gun. Police arrive to investigate and it is - predictably - nothing. Resident self-reports that they must have scared the ephemeral assailant of. Cops dutifully write it up without further investigation.

          Gun-as-security-blanket is registered as successful defensive use.