So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

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    No, this is different and completely unprecedented.

    We went into a foreign country, abducted their leader, and brought him back to America to be tried under our justice system for laws he was never subject to for crimes he almost had nothing to do with.

    I’d love to see a source for America abducting the leader of a country we’re not at war with, and bringing them to America for trial.

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        While the above poster is missing the particulars, this still is unprecedented - panama and the US were at war, and Noriega surrendered to US forces before being taken to the US. As far as I’m aware, brazen kidnapping like just happened with Maduro really is a new low for the US.

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        That was an invasion, not a kidnapping.

        The first hint is the situation was called “invasion of Panama”

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        Nah, Hawaii was an invasion, I believe the Queen was travelling to DC.

        She left Hawaii as a queen and when she got to Hawaii to negotiate a treaty, she was told Hawaii was already an American territory

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          The close enough for me. Going in to countries and fucking about then leaving them worse is kinda what we do unfortunately. Well I guess it’s what all countries who can do as well.

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            When you get the time it’s worth reading up on, super interesting and I’m surprised there hasn’t been a big movie about it despite America being the bad guys.

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        Approximately 24,000 troops descended upon Panama in December 1989, beginning a weekslong siege of the country that scattered the government and military officials.

        That’s an invasion, not a kidnapping…

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            What are you talking about?

            There’s no American troops there now.

            If you’re arguing there’s going to be a response or separate action in the future, yes…

            That’s how time works, there’s always something happen, obviously something will happen next