1. He held the rank of Jedi, but the Jedi Council were jealous and didn’t give Anakin what he deserved.

  2. He saw visions of his wife dying and was willing to do anything to save her, yes, including killing kids. This isn’t evil; this is true love.

  3. After he became Vader, he found out his wife died.

Justifiable crash-out, to be honest

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    Oh wow, apparently there are people stupid enough to believe Anakin’s perpetual victim perspective. How smooth-brained do you have to be to believe the council was jealous of a whiny teenager who couldn’t control his emotions?

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    It should be noted that OP has previously expressed belief that the only justifiable reason for a character to change their life is loss of someone they were romantically involved with, so this is on brand.

    Op believes that Anakin’s love for Padme was more important than anything, including the lives of children.

    Nothing justifies murdering children, you psychopath. He wanted to save Padme. Guess what, Padme didn’t want children murdered to save her life. And you think becoming full on evil was justified because his wife died but he didn’t have to become evil. He could have used it as motivation to become a hero instead, like other characters would do. He could have sworn vengeance against the emperor for lying to him and telling him he’d save Padme and then not doing so. He chose instead to be a right hand man to an oppressive dictator. I see Anakin as a complex character, but to say he isn’t a bad person at all is too much

    And also, Anakin didn’t deserve the rank of jedi master because he had emotional regulation issues he still needed to work out. He demonstrates this by throwing a tantrum when told he couldn’t be a master. Had he worked on those issues, he probably would have become a Jedi master soon

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    But he was fucking Padme who was a decade or more his senior! How can this list be complete without addressing this crucial issue?

    And I have to admit that I find the classification of killing children in the way that he specifically did as “not evil” a tad unconvincing.

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      I think Padme was only five years older than Anakin but that’s a good point. op used to be obsessed with age gaps and they’re okay with Anakin marrying someone he met when he was 9 and she was 14. Also Han and Leia are a decade apart in age (the Solo movie where he’s an adult takes place before the Obi-Wan series where Leia is 10) and Ben and Rey are also a decade apart in age

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    Anakin was portrated as a hot head and with poor impulse control in the Clone Wars series, the real hero and the greatest jedi on star wars was Obi-wan.

    He didn’t succumb to the dark side even when Satine died, he keep his promisses to train Anakin on the dying momments of Qui-Gon Jinn, he looked over and protect Luke on the sh*ithole of planet Tatooine and even in the end, he didn’t hesitate accept his fate and strenght his bond with the force

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        …and yet the death of Qui-Gon is meant to be the event that set Anakin’s fate.

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        I’m reading this now for the first time. All of the conversations between Palpatine and Anakin leading up to the fall add so much flavour to his fall. Worth a read for sure.

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    I don’t agree with the jealous council not giving him what he deserved claim. Anakin was exceptionally powerful and talented but that alone doesn’t make one eligible. I’m not big into Star Wars lore like some people but I can’t imagine getting on the council is just a Jedi powers skill test and that’s it.

    It’s similar to the thing with Tai Lung thinking he deserved to be proclaimed the Dragon Warrior. He was incredibly powerful and skilled but was also the type to become a villain for being denied the greatness he felt he deserved. Oogway saw that in him, and his reaction to being denied proved that he didn’t deserve it, because there was more to it than just being really skilled and powerful.

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    He was bad. Have you seen the shit he gets up to in the comics or extended universe?

    But, he did redeem himself in the end and that is what matters.