Not just uncaught murderers, there are a lot of people who have killed without legally being considered murderers.

People who killed people in accidents such as driving accidents or hunting accidents

People who killed in self defense

Soldiers who killed enemy soldiers

Executioners

Police officers who have killed on duty

Doctors and nurses who have made mistakes that accidentally killed patients

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    Used to work with the criminally insane. I’ve also met a LOT of pedophiles. Not many because they actually were crazy but because they were trying to get declared as such to not get fucked up in prison. Most of them aren’t even actually attracted to children they just wanna victimize someone and children are smaller / weaker and less able to advocate for themselves. The one thing pretty much all of them have in common is a pitiful combination of sadism and cowardice.

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    Two people, in fact. First was a Hell’s Angels enforcer. Had lunch at a Chinese restaurant with him and a few other people from my former Kung Fu school. Apparently he was a former student and credibly accused of murdering a rival biker gang member, but the jury was hung and couldn’t convict.

    Second was none other than Shrimp Boy, after he got released from prison for the murders he committed but before he got locked up again for the racketeering charges. Met in in Chinatown literally a few days before the feds closed in on him. Shared a cup of tea with him without knowing his identity and didn’t find out until someone present told me who he was days later.

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    I took a flight back from Europe with a colleague years ago, we talked for hours. A year later he was found guilty of killing his wife with cyanide.

    People do a great job of hiding their demons in a professional setting.

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    When I was 18/19 in college, I met a guy through my brother’s work that was in his mid 40’s. We hung out with him and his girlfriend a lot and he was pretty good friends with my brother. He even met my mom and family, helped her with some construction projects she needed done (dad died when I was 15, so she didn’t have that extra help), and was invited to her wedding to my step dad.

    Now we knew that this guy was an ex-con (the restaurant my brother worked at hired a lot of ex-cons), but we never really judged or pried into what happened. Honestly, this guy was always just chill, giving, funny, helpful, and respectful. I never got creeped out by him, and i never felt like he was inappropriate with me. We found out through a mutual friend later that this guy used to get paid to bleach the bodies of girls/women that had been raped and killed by others. To this mutual friend’s knowledge, our friend hadn’t actually done any raping/killing, but I was really struggling to feel much comfort in the fact that he “only” helped guys get away with it. Especially because I was a young, petite college girl at the time.

    Anyways, I dont directly know of anybody ive met that has killed someone, but the fact that I know of somebody that did this horrible thing makes me think that you’re correct.

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    It is quite likely that someone I knew either killed a person, or had them killed.

    Said potential murderer is dead for a few years now and tbh I don’t think anyone wants to uncover this mystery anymore. Since the whole thing was very long ago, it’s easier to just ignore it instead of ruining everyone’s memory of a person. The other person who could’ve done it has been dead for a decade or 2 too.

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        Let’s just say some people I know lost their mother at a very early age and when one of them finally asked the father about it 30 years later, his explanation was “well person X was at work that night, ask him”. Person X being a business partner of his, somewhat of a low-end organized crime guy. Dead for like 10-15 years at that point.

        When I say lost, I mean she hasn’t been found decades later. Not even a body.

        Early 90s were a crazy ass time here in Estonia.

        There’s more details I know, but honestly if I go too into detail and the story makes its way out of our tiny community here, people who know about the whole thing will instantly figure out who I am and who I’m talking about and I don’t want that. Not because I’m in any danger from anyone - just because I don’t want it to happen.

  • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I knew a guy who got imprisoned for murder, really nice guy, the way he described it was an armed robbery where the armed person got spooked and fired off a shot. They were arrested on the road while taking the victim to the hospital (they weren’t trying to hurt anyone) and ended up getting booked for murder and kidnapping.

    I met him a few years after he got out on probation.

    Edit: fixed a typo

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    Met a guy after he got out of prison for drunk driving and killing someone. I don’t know the details but he wouldn’t go anywhere near alcohol, so at least he’s trying to be better.

    Also I have met quite a few War Veterans over the years.

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    I once gave a friend of a friend a condescending chewing-out after they did something hurtful.

    Some time later our mutual friend informed me that they had died, but declined to tell me the cause of death.

    Much later I discovered it was self-caused.

    … Were my words too much? We spend our lives trying to be more effective communicators. What if we’re too effective when it matters most?

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      Some do.

      Soldiers who killed enemy soldiers

      Starting to get more likely in Eastern Europe now than the US I’d say. Never know when you might run into a former Russian or Ukrainan soldier.

      People who killed in self defense

      Probably less likely outside of the US since no guns, but assault is still a thing and you can kill an assailant without a gun.

      Doctors and nurses who have made mistakes that accidentally killed patients

      This is universal.

      People who killed people in accidents such as driving accidents or hunting accidents

      So is this.

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        That is true, but I think they were just trying to take a shot (haha) at the US. Well deserved, for sure.

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          So only the last 2.
          Also, they don’t mention the most obvious reason, meeting a murderer that didn’t get caught.
          It is quite easy to murder someone if you take your time and are careful.
          Most solved cases would be crimes of passion where the killer doesn’t care (at that moment)

          And yes, partially, not ‘just only’ a shot at the despicable US gun culture and militarism

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    Yeah and several of them were my kin and were murderers. My kin were the folks who you went to when you needed someone dealt with, hell I wouldn’t be surprised if my great great aunt killed someone as a favor to the Hells Angels back in the day. Let alone some of the kin I’m less close, I know at least one of them ended up in prison for murder back in the day due to some such Berdoo nonsense. Funny enough a kinsman who I only met once was also in Prison at some point and was on the bad side of the law into old age threatened to kill my sperm donor, glad he didn’t kill stealing is a step to far and that sombitch belongs either to my grandmother or myself.

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        Maybe. Don’t actually know, the ones I’m in contact with have pretty universally chilled out but who knows about the other ones. Though even with that I’m not stupid enough to assume I wouldn’t fall back into my ancestors ways of banditry and murder, just requires the right targets and enough leeway to get away with it. Would be pretty lucrative for example to raid those shitty little orthodox Mormon communities out in the desert especially with a crew.

        But like I said, as of right now all the ones I know were killers are dead or so old that they won’t be pulling that shit again.

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    I met the guy who killed my best friend. At her funeral. He was her boyfriend. He got her addicted to drugs. Technically she killed herself by OD-ing, but had he never got her addicted she’d still be alive today. I couldn’t face him. He tried to talk to be and just walked away.

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    Unless you live in a civilised country where guns aren’t everywhere and not everyone is a war vet.