isn’t ukraine doing pretty well in the war now? at least i have seen some youtube videos talking about it, no idea how trustworthy those are though.
Yes and no is the short answer
They have new capabilities including new interceptors drones and are developing in-house long range missiles
They have been struggling to hold Pokrovsk, which has been considered a stronghold of theirs in the east.
Seems like a giveaway to Russia and the US. Only thing Ukraine gets out of it is some reconstruction funds and a weak promise of security help, as well as potential EU membership.
In exchange, Ukraine is permanently banned from NATO membership, size of its military is limited, permanently gives up territory seized by Russia, etc.I don’t think this is a compromise. A compromise might be Russia keeps Crimea but gives up current conquered territory, or perhaps the current territories in dispute are allowed to hold elections and decide which way they want to go.
I very much doubt Ukraine will sign this.
Ukraine would be crazy to sign this
If I was Zelensky I wouldn’t sign it unless the battlefield situation was truly desperate.
The short answer of this is ‘Russia mostly wins’.
As an American, I think this is fucking stupid. Putin’s aggression is going to become an issue even more than it already is, and the Ukrainians are willing to be the ones fighting and dying to stop it. All they need is fucking ammunition in exchange. That is the deal of the goddamn century for the rest of the world.
It is not an America’s interest, IMHO, to make this invasion any sort of successful for Russia.
Now, as an American, if this was a three-way treaty with the third party being NATO as a whole, and it came with the guarantee that if Russia initiates military aggression against any other nation for any other reason than self-defense, it will be treated as a NATO violation and NATO will immediately respond to both reclaim all Russian territories lost in the steel and also stop that future invasion, that might be worth doing as that would put a fairly permanent stop to any Russian expansionism. The only reason Putin would sign that is if he truly doesn’t have conquering ambitions against his neighbors. I don’t personally believe he would sign that, because I believe he does have those ambitions.
Make handwritten changes reverse the names, see if Russia will sign it.
Ukraine gets amnesty and Russia has to relinquish territory permanently.
enshrine in its Constitution a commitment never to join the North Atlantic Alliance.
Why?
You planning on invading again?
Several good points among the 28, but sickeningly lined with caveats to feed into US pockets, and huge eyebrow raising ones in terms of Russian dearmament. (In that it is absent)
Even if they enshrine it in their constitution I imagine once peace starts almost all Ukrainians would be like “ya, let’s rewrite our constitution and join NATO”
Unfortunately the peace plan includes the US blocking Ukraine joining from their end, too.
So… What’s Russia gonna do if the US doesn’t abide by that? Attack America and have all of NATO come down on them?
Sorry, isn’t Pravda a literal Kremlin disinfo op? I’m not sure we should be posting anything about the Ukraine war (or, frankly, anything at all) from a Russian state-owned propaganda outlet…
Ukrainska Pravda has no relation at all to pravda.ru as far as i’m aware
Thanks, I wasn’t aware of them, and didn’t find an entry on them when looking up on mediabiasfactcheck.com. I wonder if the naming is intentional or just a coincidence around the word “Truth”.
its founder, Georgiy Gongadze, was a late-90s crusader for freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and anti-corruption initiatives in Ukraine and was likely murdered at the behest of the state for his reporting. i think the name is fairly straightforward
