• SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    16 hours ago

    Seems like a giveaway to Russia and the US. Only thing Ukraine gets out of it is some reconstruction funds and a weak promise of security help, as well as potential EU membership.
    In exchange, Ukraine is permanently banned from NATO membership, size of its military is limited, permanently gives up territory seized by Russia, etc.

    I don’t think this is a compromise. A compromise might be Russia keeps Crimea but gives up current conquered territory, or perhaps the current territories in dispute are allowed to hold elections and decide which way they want to go.

    I very much doubt Ukraine will sign this.

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        14 hours ago

        If I was Zelensky I wouldn’t sign it unless the battlefield situation was truly desperate.

        The short answer of this is ‘Russia mostly wins’.

        As an American, I think this is fucking stupid. Putin’s aggression is going to become an issue even more than it already is, and the Ukrainians are willing to be the ones fighting and dying to stop it. All they need is fucking ammunition in exchange. That is the deal of the goddamn century for the rest of the world.

        It is not an America’s interest, IMHO, to make this invasion any sort of successful for Russia.

        Now, as an American, if this was a three-way treaty with the third party being NATO as a whole, and it came with the guarantee that if Russia initiates military aggression against any other nation for any other reason than self-defense, it will be treated as a NATO violation and NATO will immediately respond to both reclaim all Russian territories lost in the steel and also stop that future invasion, that might be worth doing as that would put a fairly permanent stop to any Russian expansionism. The only reason Putin would sign that is if he truly doesn’t have conquering ambitions against his neighbors. I don’t personally believe he would sign that, because I believe he does have those ambitions.