Wut?

Alchemist and Battlemage cards were fine.

Edit: oh no. It’s a pivot to AI compute 🤦‍♂️

Why does, not taxing moving money end public funding

Because eventually everyone is below the “wealth cap”. Which means no-one pays any further tax. Why would anyone accrue more wealth at that point?

Okay, it can be 2%, and this is enough.

If we’re taxing all transactions, then yes, sounds about right.

Because when the government owns everything, that means the people in government become rich.

Are you suggesting we privatize everything?

Wealth control means giving them the wealth, and not owning by the government.

Ok, but how do decisions get made then?

Government are systems. Just because you change the structure, doesn’t make it not a government. It sounds like you want better government, not “no government”.

Which I agree with.

The fuck do you mean by “wealth control”?

Are you referring to UBI?

It sounds like what youre sctually arguing for, is an asset cap. Where any property above a certain cap goes to the government.

If the cap is 10M, how do we fund UBI, infrastructure and emergency services once everyone is below that cap?

Current economies are powered by the movement of money. So we tax the movement of money. No-one gets anything without spending their assets in some way, including the rich.

You are suggesting that taxes would somehow work better, if we taxed value that was sitting still. Which isn’t entirely false, but you are also claiming that taxation of moving money should be ended entirely. Which simply won’t work. That would eventually lead to the end of public funding.

You cant fix loopholes without taxing all billionaires until none exists, because they will constantly bribe government. Even if you fixed loopholes, they will create intentionally.

Exactly. How is your proposal a solution?

Of course assets have value. But to tax them fairly, that value needs to be defined! Impartially, too boot! And can you imagine the governmental overhead of constantly defining the values of shifting assets for tax purposes, regardless whether they are being bought or sold?

Your suggestion is as exploitable as the current system. Maybe worse!

They are already doing this. 'Spending faster than they earn"

Yea. I said that.

as many “milllionares” do

you are still thinking like income tax

What do you mean by income tax? Because clearly you aren’t understanding what I mean.

I mean ALL income. Of any kind. No loopholes. The problem isn’t conceptual. It’s practical. The law hasn’t kept up with the bookkeeping shenanigans the rich get up to. In fact, the rich actively influence current legislation to their benefit.

You’re arguing for a complete conceptual shift for no reason, when the actual problem is corruption.

What’s really needed, is just look at how the rich are avoiding taxation, and closing the legal loopholes they use. Which your “wealth tax” won’t do. Especially as “wealth” doesn’t actually have a value until it’s bought or sold.

And would a “wealth” tax not have an inherent loophole in that the “rich” could avoid paying tax by simply spending faster than they earn, or even staying in debt, as many “milllionares” do?

And would it not punish poor people who try to save up, by taxing them more the more they save up?

Would it not make renting vs owning even more of a problem? Poor people would be encouraged to rent as much as possible in order to have as little “wealth” as possible? While the rich could continue to charge whatever they want to cover the costs.

That doesn’t answer my question.

A workers salary ≠ Income

It’s one form of it.

Stocks are income. Inheritance is income. Land appreciation is income. If you give me 50 bucks as a gift, that’s income.

How is your conceptual wealth tax, not just the same as what income tax should already be?

The problems you list are all loopholes in the applicable laws, not income tax as a concept.

You get me?

What is the difference between income tax and your “wealth” tax?

Is it not just the exact same thing, but applied at a different point in the process?

If you’re about to answer that wealth can increase in value without income… That’s still income. Which a lot of countries do tax when someone goes to liquidate an asset that has appreciated in value.

Resplendent.

Impeccable.

Sublime.

Don’t forget a dozen types of throwing!

And maybe a couple types of lifting?

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Thanks!

I do take credit for my comments, tho. Nothing automated there!

Those are rookie numbers

(This is in jest, what I post takes less effort)

“What is a yoot?”

Looks at numbers.

Subtracts money being spent, from money being earned.

Huh.

Are you sure?

But potion seller, I am going into battle! I must have your strongest potions!

In my case, the wrist was not possible to set, even with the cast. Some stuff was pulverized and due to the broken ulna, other stuff had slipped out of place. The cast was only to prevent further damage.

The fentanyl dose I was given upon the arrival of the ambulance wore off as I was waiting for xrays and then to see a hand surgeon to interpret the result, so I asked for more, and was given some.

After that I spent a little over a week in constant pain while waiting for the surgery. A dislocated wrist hurts like hell.

I can’t imagine spending I single moment during that week without any kind of pain relief.

People love to shit on our healthcare system here, but in my experience it’s been amazing.

Same.

But in terms of quality of care, I have no complaints. The opposite. The nurses and doctors I interacted with were wonderful, and I made a point of telling them that. My surgeon in particular fought like hell for a result that would fully restore function in my hand. I was conscious for the surgery, so I got to sit in on the whole process.

Just under 800 euro iirc.

We do have that, too. (Private insurance and healthcare, I mean)

But most services even as a public patient do cost something here. Small stuff is usually a pittance, and if you say you can’t pay, they’ll either waive it or put you on an extremely generous payment plan. I know stuff like asking for painkillers in a waiting room is free though. Just the work of keeping track of that type of thing to charge for it, isn’t worth it.

But the more expensive stuff can add up. That’s why the maximum exists, but apparently even the extremely complex repair of my wrist, barely dents it.