All we can do is ignore them.

Unfortunately, most people are too stupid to do that. We can’t expect stupid people to make smart decisions.

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The problem is that this has been decades in the making. A lack of education in the likes of civics, us history, critical-thinking skills (fallacies, research and analytics). If such education is a vaccine against false rhetoric (bad propaganda), then to reverse course is going to take an extremely long time.

Neurons take time to rewire no less, and if you didn’t arrive to your worldview by rational means, rational logic will not get you out of that overnight.

The only short-term solution I see is redirection of existing anger to the billionaires, and using mockery and satire as a way to short-circuit people’s preexisting biases. For whatever reason, this breaks barriers like little else.

Counter propaganda, informing people why it’s propaganda, and not mimicking propagandist by censoring alternative opinions.

I remember watching the brilliant documentary series “Cold War” by CNN/BBC and one episode had a segment on Radio Free Europe, the American radio station set up to counter the Soviet propaganda radio.

It was obviously also propaganda even if it tried to be more open than the Soviet radio.

Anyway, the guy managing the station spoke about how to gain listeners and build trust.

He put it bluntly, saying that you need “Good, solid news” especially information that people can verify on their own, and mentioned simple stuff like accurate weather reports.

Now this obviously require people to be looking for accurate news, something that seems to be less and less important to more and more people.

In a better world, the proper way to counter propaganda is by consistently providing a more accurate and reliable source of information.

I’ve found a stick works just fine but if you get something heavier you do more damage

With a cane, or just use fists if you are trained in martial arts.

It depends. Block them, regulate them, limit their reach or scope. Publish counters on the same scale or in a more efficient way.

I don’t think propagandist is defined clearly enough to list or discuss concrete counter-strategies. A lobby org lobbying for a law could be considered propagandist.

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You play a different game so that even if you lose on the propaganda front, you still win gains elsewhere.

Propaganda like what? Like the news being all fake?

You can’t. According to the turing test if machines get good enough at faking content, you can never be sure again whether news are real or fake. Every picture, every news article could be written by the AI and telling you bullshit fake news that the oligarchs (who own the “news” media empire) want you to see.

The only way to know anything at all is to have seen it with your own eyes, or somebody who you trust has seen it with their own eyes, you need to talk to them in person or drive to the event to see it for yourself. In other words, you can only know things that are close enough to yourself to be within your range of movement. Everything else is essentially unknowable, especially if it’s a politically controversial topic.

You need to first identify who they are. Follow the money, and you’ll see their ties. That’s how you defeat them: by starving them of your energy, and not participating in their Roman bread and circuses.

For those unaware of what I’m talking about, there’s this thing called energetic participation. You may have heard it said as “predictive programming”. This is a technique used in most media today, and to keep it brief, the propagandists tell everyone who watches something with subliminal messaging approved by them what some people will do sometime in the future (using things like numerology, astrology, etc.), and how they want us, the consoomer, to respond appropriately to the problem they’ll cause. Gauging the reaction, they’ll provide the “solution” that will lead to a worse quality of life than before. They’ll do this every single time they want something to make people’s lives more miserable than previously.

Case in point: this current talk on digital ID’s. Well, first, they create the issue necessary for it (importing poverty and invading a Caucasian-majority country like the UK or US with 3rd world criminals released from their home country’s prisons), then they gauge the reaction (calls for the government to fix it), and then, after some time, they provide the fake solution (digital ID’s to “stop the invasion”, “stop the flippin’ terrorists”, and “protect the children”, all kinds of nonsense like that).

They told us that they would do this in some piece of programming in the past, and we didn’t catch onto it, likely because the propagandists didn’t want us to notice what they were planning on doing so we could stop them. They don’t want us to, and that’s the point. This is a simplification of energetic participation, as it’s much more nuanced than that.