• Singletona082@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I’m genuinely surprised Trump killed the CHIPS act, when he could’ve let that roll through and taken credit for it as the whole POINT of that was to improve US manufacturing.

    Also reintroduce the build back better with whatever re-branding.

    If he were truly interested in american manufacturing he’d have gone all in on these.

    But no. he wants company owners and worldl eaders to come to him and beg for exemptions.

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      4 days ago

      He wants to get rid of everything associated with bEYEden and also wants to stick it to CHAIna.

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      I’m not surprised.

      The name of the game here is to destroy America, not build it up. (Russia wants a USSR-style fall of America. The Cold War never ended for them.) And Trump wants to stay out of jail. Everything you see Trump or his admin doing can be attributed to those two things. Destroying America, or keeping himself out of Jail.

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        Eh, I think it’s more that Trump wants attention. The CHIPS act is bad because Biden gets credit for it, not Trump. Tariffs are good because Trump gets to force other countries to come to the US to negotiate with him. Whether the deal at the end is good or bad is irrelevant, what matters is that Trump’s name is in the news and attached to those deals.

        Trump isn’t going to jail, so I highly doubt he cares much about avoiding it. He mostly cares about people talking about him, and it’s working.

        I think Musk is the same way, but he does seem to care about the tech his name is attached to as well. So that’s likely to cause huge issues soon as Musk and Trump butt heads more and more.

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        4 days ago

        As a European I fully support comrade Trump in his successful endeavor of destroying the imperialist and fascist US state.

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          Don’t talk nonsense. Trump will destroy America and take Europe down the same path if he gets the chance.

          The breakdown of trust in the Atlantic alliance alone is one of the worst things that could have happened to both sides and this is just the beginning. They’re going to fuck themselves and they’re going to fuck us in the process.

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            I hope our EU government get some sense and stop acting like the vasals they are.
            This could be the push we need.
            The US never were our friends and this ‘alliance’ is nothing more than being in their sphere of influence and serving their interests. Bcs they are losing power in the world they are now canibalising their own side.
            Who said ‘there will be no more Nordstream’?
            And then in a pure act of terror blew it up forcing us to buy 8x more expensive US fracking gas.
            Not one peep from our sell-out leaders.
            We needed to drop this horrible country long time ago, regardless of Trump.

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          The EU is not as detached from global economics as you seem to believe it is. The fall of the US will have world wide implications, for many generations.

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            The EU is not as detached from global economics as you seem to believe it is

            I never said that, but it needs to be done.
            We need to cut ties before they drag us down further.
            Our economy is already going to shit with the high energy prices caused by them blowing up Nordstream.
            And that was under Genocide Joe.
            I would rather have an incompetent moron in charge of the country seeing us as vasals since forever.
            And if it’s up to them they will gladly see us all at war again like WW2.
            Their competition destroying themselves while they benefit and sell arms.

            Fuck that whole country

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            that doesn’t apply.
            It’s better to distance ourselves from them before we get caught in their dumpster fire and also get burned.

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              And how do you plan on doing that today? You are also delusional like Trump if you think you can just cut ties and happily watch US go up in flames. That simply isn’t gonna happen, certainly not before his current term ends.

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                It can happen pretty fast, look what Russia did with those sactions.
                The EU, their neighbour, simply got replaced.
                We can certainly do the same with the US.

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                  The USSR was not thoroughly embedded in the world economies. Nor did it have as staunch of allies in major positions in EU government as the US does today. Don’t get me wrong, despite being in the US, I do think that countries divesting and becoming less dependent upon a slave state, like the US, is a good thing. However, as the “Great Recession” demonstrated, EU economies are very much entangled with the US economy, with few lessons seeming to have been learned in the last decade and a half.

                  Sure, the US might be more impacted, but the EU will not be unscathed, if there isn’t more effort to decouple and ditch neoliberal policies. That kind of stuff can’t happen overnight.

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                    The USSR was not thoroughly embedded in the world economies.
                    Completely wrong.
                    Also we’re talking about Russia, not the USSR.
                    And they certainly did make radical changes almost overnight when forced.
                    My point is we need to untangle.
                    We are not ‘unscathed’ as it is now, on the contrary, we are suffering bcs of them.
                    The sooner we dump them the better.

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      Even if he had gone all in on manufacturing, it’s not like a supply network of industrial goods can be built in a day. Hell, it’s hard to build that in a 4-year term. Trump is virtue signalling while at the same time jeopardizing any chance America had of reshoring.

      It’s honestly infuriating me how big projects needed to improve our infrastructure take years and years to complete, when from one administration to the next, those same projects can be cancelled.

      It takes multiple presidencies to build something good, and it takes one to tear it all down.

      I see now the benefits of China’s 5 year plans with how well organized they can control their economy.

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      Trump is a personality cult. It’s not rational and whatever. It’s about him and always has been.

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      I’d have to look into it more, but my gut tells me the CHIPS act & ‘Build Back Better’ was filled to the brim with pork & bullshit. You’d have to parse through, line by line, and take out all the shit. And hope all the changes get passed & implemented, and of course you’re still touting the worthless name of a project that your people hate that you didn’t even create. Or just blindly trust your opponent’s judgment calls & let it roll through, based on “just trust me, bro”. Nooooo thank you. Why bother?

      With stuff like this, it tends to be easier & more expedient to take it behind the shed & shoot it. Replace it with your distinctly different, branded equivalent.

      However. If this is true, it appears that Trump didn’t fully raze the CHIPS act & merely revamped it, is taking credit for it. Like you said. CHIPS must have been pretty true to cause.

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        Oh I’m sure there was pork there, but to just dismissi t out of hand is kinda disengenouls especially when all the politicians (mostly republican) that voted against it tried snapping up credit come time for the ribbon cutting and new construction to aged infrastructure.

        Granted Manchan and Senna opposed the build back better initiative and both were explicitely paid off by fossil fuel industry wonks… And i figure if they’re in opposition, ‘I want it even more out of sheer fucking spite to you greedy assholes that make money killing the planet my niece is going to have to live in.’