For example workplace harrasment by women towards males like touching or groping being ignored because the victim is male but if it where to happen to a woman by a male the male would be fired

  • Ekybio@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    121
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Men are often expected to swallow their emotions and just “function”, while women are allowed and even encouraged to display them openly

      • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        35
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Its sort of crazy how there’s no real effort to help people develop their emotional intelligence as a kid or beyond. It should be like no later than grade 1 or 2 where people learn about their feelings and setting limits with people.

        So many parents gasp at the idea of their child actually having boundaries that are to be respected because muh dominion or they never learned about it themselves and aren’t open to everyone simply being more observant and respectful of them

          • sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            Yeah, it is one of the things I love about the district we are in. They are big on EQ and also very inclusive (my kids are on the spectrum, so I like that they actively teach about inclusion).

        • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          2 months ago

          This is called Social Emotional Learning and is a big thing in the school I teach in, but has big pushback from many conservatives because it talks about respecting people for their differences, even if they are gay or trans or a poc.

          • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            2 months ago

            There’s a huge discrepancy in how people understand the word respect.

            The “blindly follow what I say and override all your reactions to the pain it will probably cost” and hold your tongue/bottle your emotions shit needs to die in a fire. That is blind control, it is very different and it means much more work and negative outcomes for all involved.

      • Ekybio@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        Which is also funny because that leads directly to a lot of mental problems for these men.

        I see a change is this trend, but a lot of damage has already been done and it will take quite a while to recover from this.

      • pubquiz@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 months ago

        Hmmm, I think Kyle Rittenhouse and Gus Walz might have a different perspective. One displayed remorse through blubbering “tears” to play-act out of murder charges and one displayed genuine emotion for a successful family member. Both were pilloried for displaying emotion, fake or real.

        Magic Eight Ball says: Concentrate and ask again

    • Nefara@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      2 months ago

      Women absolutely are penalized for showing emotion. Socially between friends there is a lot better support, and that is probably what you are thinking of. In a workplace environment though, there can be serious consequences for expressing anything other than congeniality. If you’re socially withdrawn you’re an ice queen, if you get angry (no matter how justifiable) you’re a bitch or a dragon lady. If you’re stressed and not perfectly composed you’re weak “unable to handle the pressure”. I get that men are subject to the same kind of judgments but there seems to be more leeway.

    • Wild Bill@midwest.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      It’s not that women are “allowed,” it’s more so that women are expected to be emotional because they’re oh such emotional creatures and of course she’s crying.

    • JIMMERZ@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      2 months ago

      I would counter this and say any woman with a career can absolutely not show emotion. They’re expected to behave like men, which are in turn not supposed to show emotion in the workplace. It’s less of a double standard and more of a toxic standard.

      • Clent@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Commenter didn’t say work. It’s true in all circumstances.

        You recognizing it as true in the work place by understanding women are expected to be like men in the work place. Because men are not expected to show emotions.

        Your counter is actually an example.