Hate to by the pessimist, but he’s not wrong. Most subs will open back up tomorrow, I doubt most will close again. The users that aren’t on board will jump ship, but a greater percentage will likely just grumble and complain while they continue using the service. It’s what they’re banking on.
They’re not getting me back. I doubt that will affect their bottom line much, but it’s all I can do.
While you’re absolutely correct, keep in mind Reddit heavily relies on a smaller number of people dedicated to creating the communities, the rules, moderating, engaging users, fixing issues.
Sure, the large number of people from all across the world interacting and that are missing from Lemmy is a major letdown… But can Reddit sustain itself for another decade while actively pushing away the dedicated moderators? The community creators? The people carefully writing full blown wikis? Can they keep their userbase by slowly filling their app with bad quality clones of services like TikTok, NFTs, Twitter Spaces? How many ads will people tolerate? How many times can Reddit push “random” livestreams to people’s feeds and remove communities they dislike?
It won’t be today, and it won’t be thanks to the blackouts… But Reddit is already done, it just takes a while to fully halt a moving train even after the engine collapses.
For me the benefit of the various mismanagement crises at Twitter and now reddit is that they push enough people to alternatives to create a critical mass there. Mastodon will likely never be what Twitter was, but enough interesting people and enough of my professional network now have a presence on the latter that it’s become a viable alternative for me. Same thing here. Whether or not Lemmy ever reaches reddit’s proportions, there are enough interesting links and discussions here to keep me occupied. And if not, I could probably stand to spend a bit less time on social media anyhow.
I agree completely. Also, I mentioned elsewhere that I feel more likely to actually contribute to this smaller community. I’ve already made more posts (2…3 maybe?) in a week here than I did in the last 2 years on Reddit. When you don’t feel like you’re shouting to 3 million people who aren’t listening, it’s more fun! It’s hard to really talk to anyone when you don’t know anyone at the party right? Is that enough analogies? I feel like that’s probably enough…
Yes! I recently went to a professional conference for the first time since the Twitter debacle and found that while most of the participants were still tweeting, Mastodon felt like a fun secret society within the meeting. We recognized one another, said hello in the hallways, had conversations that felt like secret handshakes. It emphasized for me the difference between having a community and shouting into the void.
It’s crazy how the smaller scale effects interaction. I’d never post on Reddit, never comment and rarely vote but here is feels like it has more…impact? Not sure if that’s the word but it feels different for sure
Yup, they did their market research, they know most will pop up online. Hopefully the leaked memo will piss off more admins to stay down, I really do hope most will, but most of those mods love being in power - and they’re not in power if they are down.
Hate to by the pessimist, but he’s not wrong. Most subs will open back up tomorrow, I doubt most will close again. The users that aren’t on board will jump ship, but a greater percentage will likely just grumble and complain while they continue using the service. It’s what they’re banking on.
They’re not getting me back. I doubt that will affect their bottom line much, but it’s all I can do.
While you’re absolutely correct, keep in mind Reddit heavily relies on a smaller number of people dedicated to creating the communities, the rules, moderating, engaging users, fixing issues.
Sure, the large number of people from all across the world interacting and that are missing from Lemmy is a major letdown… But can Reddit sustain itself for another decade while actively pushing away the dedicated moderators? The community creators? The people carefully writing full blown wikis? Can they keep their userbase by slowly filling their app with bad quality clones of services like TikTok, NFTs, Twitter Spaces? How many ads will people tolerate? How many times can Reddit push “random” livestreams to people’s feeds and remove communities they dislike?
It won’t be today, and it won’t be thanks to the blackouts… But Reddit is already done, it just takes a while to fully halt a moving train even after the engine collapses.
For me the benefit of the various mismanagement crises at Twitter and now reddit is that they push enough people to alternatives to create a critical mass there. Mastodon will likely never be what Twitter was, but enough interesting people and enough of my professional network now have a presence on the latter that it’s become a viable alternative for me. Same thing here. Whether or not Lemmy ever reaches reddit’s proportions, there are enough interesting links and discussions here to keep me occupied. And if not, I could probably stand to spend a bit less time on social media anyhow.
I agree completely. Also, I mentioned elsewhere that I feel more likely to actually contribute to this smaller community. I’ve already made more posts (2…3 maybe?) in a week here than I did in the last 2 years on Reddit. When you don’t feel like you’re shouting to 3 million people who aren’t listening, it’s more fun! It’s hard to really talk to anyone when you don’t know anyone at the party right? Is that enough analogies? I feel like that’s probably enough…
Yes! I recently went to a professional conference for the first time since the Twitter debacle and found that while most of the participants were still tweeting, Mastodon felt like a fun secret society within the meeting. We recognized one another, said hello in the hallways, had conversations that felt like secret handshakes. It emphasized for me the difference between having a community and shouting into the void.
Now, if only I could follow you on Lemmy. lol
It’s crazy how the smaller scale effects interaction. I’d never post on Reddit, never comment and rarely vote but here is feels like it has more…impact? Not sure if that’s the word but it feels different for sure
Yup, they did their market research, they know most will pop up online. Hopefully the leaked memo will piss off more admins to stay down, I really do hope most will, but most of those mods love being in power - and they’re not in power if they are down.