Like come on, people are otraged about the most minor stuff, but somehoe can’t be bothered to boycot or change the situation with convenience pricig, where same stuff you buy at a store is 10-20x the price per unit.
“Youre taking advantage of my tiredness, making me pay more of my hard-earned money for the privilege of being too tired to prepare my own food/drinks myself, essentially making me work more hours for having worked too many hours and being tired as a resilt of it. So: making me more tired for being tired already”
Outraged that if I don’t want to make my own food or drink, the price of someone else’s labor to make it for me is added in?
fyi tourists go to cafes and pay 4€ for a coffee. meanwhile i grab mine from the supermarket which costs 0,80€
it is possible to pay less; people just don’t care.
I don’t pitch a fit online, I just don’t use them.
I thankfully live in a place where Starbucks isn’t the norm, and independent cafes can do coffee better than any chain
It pains me when I see people go to these places that obviously overcharge and underdeliver
People were outraged, when this was news years ago.
The frog has been boiled and has been dead for sone time.
I can’t keep track of all the things I’m outraged about anymore. It’s too much.
Why don’t you boycott it and quit buying things that aren’t worth the price? Seriously, people aren’t outraged at this because convenience has value which means it costs.
The way to attack this problem is with robust antitrust enforcement. Where there are obscene markups there should be increased competition to provide the good/service which drives the price down. When that doesn’t happen it’s because something is stopping competition.
I don’t get mad at shit like this, I just don’t buy.
Rage gets you nothing from these pricing schemes. Letting the company go broke does.
I solved this problem, with regards to coffee, permanently for myself by getting a Timemore S3 and an Aeropress Go. All said that $200 CAD invested 5 years ago has save me hundreds in coffee bills, and now I can make a fresh cup at the campsite, road side, anywhere. All I need is hot water.
I just stopped drinking coffee.
I don’t think most people know enough about convenience pricing to be outraged about it.
The whole system of personalised pricing is designed to be unnoticeable to the general public or even make you think you’re paying less.
On a sidenote I don’t like the attitude of other commentators saying it’s just for Starbucks so it doesn’t matter to me, I make my coffee at home. Nothing is stoppin the system of convenience pricing to infect everything that isn’t Starbucks and everyone needs to buy groceries.
E: I misunderstood the OP, I thought he was talking about surveillance pricing/ personalised pricing which is something else entirely. Paying more because you want your drink at 3 in the morning or delivered to you or from a smaller store near you is normal and makes sense to me.
I think it’a good reminder that rewards programs, points, and generally every incentive that encourages you not to shop around is bullshit.
There’s nothing outrage can do. You’ll still buy from them since the rich own everything and you still have to eat. You can’t outlast a billionaire just on hunger alone. Billionaires own the world. We’re just the (soon to be obsolete) chattle that lives in it to increase their profits.
Man there is a technology out there that threatens %90 of peoples jobs, the literacy rate of both youth and adults, steals from artists and makes everything worse.
If people don’t stand up against that they won’t stand up for anything. Most people are just cattle at this point.
If people don’t stand up
Stand up and do what? With whom? When and where is this happening? What are the anticipated consequences? What is the anticipated pushback? Who is leading the struggle? What are the demands?
I see a ton of “Somebody Should Do Something!” but vanishingly little “Join the DSA, rally around AOC, and unionize your workplace. Here’s the steps. Here’s the meeting. Here’s the agenda. Here’s people with resources and experience who can make it successful.”
They are standing up against it but they still can’t compete with Wall Street PE firms that see AI as another way to eliminate a certain percentage of that pesky human labor that costs so dang much to keep alive.
How exactly are we suppose to stop such greed when we aren’t allowed to remove these elements from our economy? Voting doesn’t fix it. Boycotting doesn’t fix it. Its entrenched. History offers but one suggestion and the system is very anti-violence these days.
Is ‘convenience pricing’ like ‘surge pricing’ for car services? i.e. prices go way up at peak hours?
Even more diabolical, they’re working on making pricing individualized to you based on how much they think you’re willing to pay for a product using aggregate data
Define “convenience pricing”.
Convenience has always come at a price. Your local corner shop will likely stock bread and milk, and it will be a lot more expensive than it is at the massive supermarket a mile or two away.
So… The bread in supermarket is high in preservative chemicals, which is why it can stay ‘fresh’ for days. The one from a local bakery (boulangerie or pattisere or whatever) will have a shorter shelf life since they don’t have a long supply chain to manage
There’s not much evidence that the preservatives are bad or the supermarket bread is inferior, but I do miss the fresh smell and crack of the bread when I end up eating the (imo inferior) supermarket bread
Processed foods like white bread are inferior to real sourdough not just from a taste perspective but also health as white bread lacks the same nutrients and spikes your blood sugar.
I’m not talking about a bakery. They’re even more expensive, and even less convenient since most of them close just after lunch. I’m taking about a corner shop. Think Kwik-e-mart on The Simpsons. Apu sure as shit wasn’t baking his own bread.
Oh, I guess I’m lucky to have a corner shop with fresh bread, not just the same supermarket one
So… The bread in supermarket is high in preservative chemicals
This seems like an America thing.
Not the case here in Finland, for example.
Most white bread sold in supermarkets is preservative full, even in Europe and Japan. It’s required because the supply chain (from baking to on shelf) itself costs at least half a day or a full day depending on the setup.
A similar bread baked at home has a shelf life of 2-3 days before it is not fluffy soft anymore. This puts a big constraint as the feedback for the next batch is literally time critical. A longer shelf life enables bulk distribution per store which reduces logistics cost and improves per unit cost
White bread, but most bread sold in stores here isn’t white bread.
Granted I don’t really know if it’s full of preservatives. It does often have added sugar which is already shit (and a kind of preservative i guess).
I almost exclusively eat rye bread, just like the rest of this country.
I am not going to Starbucks, because fuck that corporate US shit. I am happily paying $10 to a local kebab place, because I earn about $15/h after taxes and insurance, and there is no way I am going to make a decent kebab with fries in under an hour, plus it helps some random Arab guy earn a living, so why shouldn’t I?
And it penalises vulnerable people eg spme disabled, elderly, people with kids etc.
why aren’t people outraged in general?
they’re overwhelmed and discouraged because their outrage to previous things did nothing to solve the problem.
outrage is like gunpowder without a shell casing.
