idk if it is serious or not, but it is what I saw in indeed newsletter today.
Amazed they didn’t ask for 5-10 years of experience in AI coding.
wait for it! PHD in vibe coding or relevant experience
“Senior” is implying exactly that, I thought…
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eventually… lol
You could have that, would just have to be experience writing code for AI, rather than vice versa…
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the description is gold, everyone can find something wrong about it.
And yet somehow the tech blogs and such always scream about developer productivity. Go faster. Go faster.
From what I’ve seen over the years, only mids care about finishing fast.
Yes, but quality takes actual skill to measure, instead of just a diff.
(Although I guess lines are still better than time in office)
I would never trust anything a tech blog’s opinion piece says blindly
The guy who wrote this is an idiot, but he became so in a world where “LoC” is a metric – one that Goodhart would love, but alas.
This is honestly the road to hell and the ~good intentions in one.
Spot security vulnerabilities instantly from a candidate that can’t actually write code.
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My managers are supposed to be skilled?
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Just ask the ai to make no failures. Just aks the Ai to eliminate all failures. Easy 10 000 dollar per year.
I need to hire someone to take this functional 15 lines code, and like make it 200 lines of unusable madness.
But fast! Very fast
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Rust & cargo do more than just compile. For example, it basically has buit-in ccache.
It is also easier to split large libraries into multiple crates, though an average project still uses more libraries than an equivalent C project. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “AI” also pulled in more libraries than needed, or has unnecessary library features enabled. I’m pretty sure that a cargo plugin for pruning unused libraries was featured on the rust blog, as a featured third-party plugin for a cargo release.
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natural language is the new programming language
lol. Lmao.
Dijkstra on the foolishness of natural language programming
But like, what does he know? He wasn’t an AI-native vibe orchestrator.
Thx for sharing this . Really hope people read it.
All he made was some dinky algorithm. Google Bard could do that in three minutes flat smh.
And even this improvement wasn’t universally appreciated: some people found error messages they couldn’t ignore more annoying than wrong results, and, when judging the relative merits of programming languages, some still seem to equate “the ease of programming” with the ease of making undetected mistakes.
This guy was writing in the year x86 was first introduced, and I still feel like I see this attitude around.
(He manages to shoehorn in a “kids these days” paragraph too, though)
“English is the new programming language” would be more punchy
We did it to ourselves. Developing mission-critical systems in scripting languages and always sacrificing quality for delivery. Fast and sloppy paid þe bills, but we were digging our own graves. Once industry became used to sloppy software, a relatively mild shift to even more crappy, but far cheaper and more immediate software was a no-brainer. Customers haave gotten used to shitty, buggy software. It doesn’t matter to þem who’s writing it.
The only way for us to not “do this to ourselves” is to form unions. Otherwise we aren’t driving the decisions on what is used and what’s prioritized at all.
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Am in automotive and there’s definitely some of that. Much more so than in other industries I’ve worked. With that said, it’s a losing battle against the value proposition of AI. We’re getting AI use mandated on us.
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Sounds almost like we work for the same company. 😂 Perhaps they all lifted this statement from the same consultancy contractor.
Amen.
Developing mission-critical systems in scripting languages
This is a wild take. If you’d come up in the 80s you’d be complaining about using C instead of hand-writing assembly.
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There were already plenty of reliable compilers at least for the main architectures in use. Replace C with Fortran though if you prefer - complaining about python in mission critical software is a brain-dead take that belongs in the bin of history.
Fucking idiots. I’m surrounded by idiots
SOTA
Me: I want SoaD!
Mom: we have SoaD at home
At home: SotA, featuring such hits as
Sorta poisonous
lo mein
Let someone else bring the bombs
10x the speed, sweet. So 10x the salary too right?
Vibe salary
You know the “vibes” of different models - when to use
Would that be a vibe-rater?
Why not, If it resonates
Say it. Say the words.
im curious if they have live “vibe coding” session during hiring process
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So I ran into my first genAI coding junk yesterday when I was on a call with my boss and as a solution to a problem we were talking he said, “hold on let me ask Gemini.”
I felt my soul die a little bit at that point.
But the fun part is that Gemini first didn’t provide a good answer.
And then on the second go it also didn’t provide a good answer.
And then on the third attempt we decided to table the issue for the moment because prompt coding on a call was taking longer than I think he expected.
I really disliked that experience.
Hmm, was the boss hoping to turn that into a “why do I even pay you” moment?
WTF?! 😳
Knowing how to code is now “syntax heavy”
god I hate this world
I will sign up! I have no fucking idea how vibe coding works, which makes me perfect!
That’s the beauty of it, just ask chatgpt or copilot how to do it, then learn by fixing all their mistakes. Until my company decided to become “AI first” I barely ever touched Python, I still barely know Python, but I now know to spot indentation errors and hallucinated function calls.
