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    Of course they do. The first movie shows they are honorable killers / hunters. Afaik, this has always been part of their lore.

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      Idk, the further context would be knowing how outspoken she (rightfully) has been about Israel. It’s not like the post was shared in a vacuum.

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      So we’ve gone from:

      I like pancakes.

      Why do you hate waffles?!

      … to …

      Killing children is bad.

      Obviously you must have brain damage that causes you to spread hateful bigotted conspiracy theories.


      Somehow, reality ended up being more ridiculous and less believable than Metal Gear Solid 2.

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        Its b/c they specifically responded about Jewish people. They’re outing themselves as child murderers b/c they feel attacked by the statement.

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          I… I know that… I’m just trying to point out how the insanity knob appears to just ratchet forward and there seemingly is no way to dial it back… we’re just gonna keep cranking it up untill it blows out the amp, so to speak.

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      I get blanking everything unimportant to get the point across, but I do wonder what the rest of the text said…

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        Of what? The Ms. Rachel post? I think that was it, the post was just a white screen that said Stop Killing Kids in the center. I saw it on Lemmy earlier but don’t have Twitter to look at the original myself.

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        And why exactly does Hamas exist in the first place? Surely not because Isreal has been killing Palestinians before Isreal was even an official state.

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          This is actually something I don’t understand when this argument is brought up. Havent they both been killing each other since well before the modern period?

          It made a little more sense when the argument was that Hamas is bad, but that doesn’t justify collateral damage to Palestinian civilians when targeting them. But it seems to me the rhetoric I see often has switched to making excuses for Hamas, who directly tries to kill children whenever they get the opportunity, including putting their own Palestinian civilians in the line of fire to confuse attacks against them and get them killed as “martyrs”. Which they use to justify their actions, even though they caused it.

          I don’t see how Israel’ careless around getting noncombatants killed justifies deliberately targeting civilians, which Hamas does constantly, or doing things like putting a rocket launcher on top of a hospital just so it looks bad for Israel when they destroy it. It’s not like Hamas wants a peaceful two-state solution and Israel just isn’t playing along. And theres not a lot of anti-Hamas sentiment in Gaza since they get murdered by Hamas, and they did vote them in in the first place.

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            If you count the modern period as after 1900, there was no tension between the Jews and Palestinian Arabs because there were very few Jews actually living in the area. Jews made up about 3% of the population until the first Zionist conference in 1897. Following on from this, the colonial project began with European Jews moving to Palestine.

            Historically every time a settler colonial population moves into a new area the demonise, oppress and attempt to kill off the native population. We had the British in Ireland, Spanish and Portuguese in south and central America, northern Europeans in North America, British again in Australia and new Zealand, European powers in the “race for Africa” and now the Jewish setter colonisers in Palestine. Israel does not want a two state solution, it is quite clear from the evidence at hand that the “greater Israel” project is their goal. The rest of the world needs to wake up to the obvious, Israel is shouting about it and the world is not listening. Boycott, Divest and Sanction the genocidal Zionists, this worked for South Africa and their apartheid regime.

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        That’s the same excuse as

        “The Nazis genocide is, so it’s fine if we genocide others back”

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          She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the “journalist” who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.

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          She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the “journalist” who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.

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          She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the “journalist” who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.

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            So no she didn’t, you’re just peddling lies and propaganda?

            She did a video with a journalist, a journalist who also was on BBC, who was submitted one of Times top 10 photos of the year, interviewed with The Guardian, etc. A well respected international figure who has been one of the most prominent people covering Gaza from inside.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motaz_Azaiza

            But of course to ZioNazis hes the worst person ever because he documents their genocide.

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    The Predator was after a worthy opponent. Something to give a challenge. The IDF are just bullies with guns. Think ICE but with different brown people.

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    One thing the Predator movies always did well was giving the creature its own strange code of honor. Moments like that made it feel less like a mindless monster and more like a hunter with rules.

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      I don’t know about your country specifically, but here in France hunters regularly shoot at cyclists. Their main union even complained about a new law imposing a legal limit of blood alcohol content during hunting sessions.

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        our hunting regulations are all over the place but there was a period in history when a number of prominent politicians got killed during hunting “by accident”. oddly enough they had ties with russia…

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    I mean Predator seems kinda woke with that rainbow view, so it only makes sense.

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    I watched the animated Predator movie the other day, and was miffed that

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    they would kidnap people who won against their hunters, freeze them for who knows how many years (thereby effectively ending their lives as they know it) and bring them across the galaxy to fight for their lives again. Respect that the winner won you sore losers. Absolutely no honor.

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      No honor? The Yatuja believe that the only honor that matters is in your hunting prowess, literally every Yatuja has never lost a fight because they always fight to the death. They absolutely think it’s an honor to be brought to Yautja Prime to fight against their leader, which is why they do that instead of just killing the people who beat a Predator. That’s a huge sign of respect from them

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        I just feel like if they were acting honorably, they would have invited the victors instead of kidnapping them via what I assume was a cowardly ambush (based off the fact they have no memory of it), and freezing them until their loved ones were dead.

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          The Yautja have no concept of “loved ones”. It is specifically brought up that Dek’s older brother is a failure because he is protecting his weaker brother instead of culling him for the strength of the clan. You’re using human emotional logic to justify your opinions instead of following Predator logic. The vast majority of Yautja would be champing at the bit to fight to prove they can beat the warlord. I still contend these humans have been given an incredible honor in Yautja society

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            Well you just brought up they do have familial feelings. They just choose to be a culture centered around pointless murder around the galaxy.

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              A warrior’s face is the same, regardless of whether or not they chose to be in the situation they are in.

              ‘Willing’ implies choice, including the choice to be a coward.

              Battles imply constraints and conditions you cannot change, combat proficiency implies adaptability to any situation.

              The Yautja force the scenario, as a test.

              Being granted the second test is itself an honor.

              You were worth their time, their considerstion.

              You passed round one, which is … significantly uncommon.

              To them, they’ve granted you the privilege of knowing that cowardice, flight, is not an option: You must fight.

              This makes the battle strategically simpler, for you, as a courtesy.

              If this sounds inhuman… welcome to Comparative XenoEthics 101.

              If you cancel the class, you’re expelled, if you fail, you’re expelled.

              And if you even think about dropping the class: I can see the internal ongoing processes in your brain, in realtime.

              Do not trifle.

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              Why would you care about a lesser species’ opinion? Why would you hold them to a lower standard than you hold yourself?

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            Gotta disengage those mamallian parts of your brain, just use the newer, fancier bits, and the more basal, reptillian bits.

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      think opposite of Epstein circle

      In no way the Epstein circle is the opposite. Rape is not love, those people are rapists not pedophiles.

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        that was dark humor not factual. I also enjoyed making a connection between two vile organizations. even though it looks like an anti connection the whole point of the joke is to make them look similar, precisely because of the reason you mentioned.