Screenshot of this question was making the rounds last week. But this article covers testing against all the well-known models out there.
Also includes outtakes on the ‘reasoning’ models.
Screenshot of this question was making the rounds last week. But this article covers testing against all the well-known models out there.
Also includes outtakes on the ‘reasoning’ models.
Very interesting that only 71% of humans got it right.
The same 29% that keeps fascists in power around the world.
I mean, I’ve been saying this since LLMs were released.
We finally built a computer that is as unreliable and irrational as humans… which shouldn’t be considered a good thing.
I’m under no illusion that LLMs are “thinking” in the same way that humans do, but god damn if they aren’t almost exactly as erratic and irrational as the hairless apes whose thoughts they’re trained on.
Yeah, the article cites that as a control, but it’s not at all surprising since “humanity by survey consensus” is accurate to how LLM weighting trained on random human outputs works.
It’s impressive up to a point, but you wouldn’t exactly want your answers to complex math operations or other specialized areas to track layperson human survey responses.
Good and bad is subjective and depends on your area of application.
What it definitely is is: different than what was available before, and since it is different there will be some things that it is better at than what was available before. And many things that it’s much worse for.
Still, in the end, there is real power in diversity. Just don’t use a sledgehammer to swipe-browse on your cellphone.
I asked Lars Ulrich to define good and bad. He said…
That “30% of population = dipshits” statistic keeps rearing its ugly head.
I’m not afraid to say that it took me a sec. My brain went “short distance. Walk or drive?” and skipped over the car wash bit at first. Then I laughed because I quickly realized the idiocy. :shrug:
As someone who takes public transportation to work, SOME people SHOULD be forced to walk through the car wash.
Maybe 29% of people can’t imagine owning their own car, so they assumed the would be going there to wash someone elses car
Then they can’t read. Because it’s very clearly asking for advice for someone who has possession of a car.
Yeah, it was a joke. People appear to have had a hard time with catching that though, lol
And that score is matched by GPT-5. Humans are running out of “tricky” puzzles to retreat to.
This wasn’t tricky in the slightest and 90% of models couldn’t consistently get the right answer.
It’s tricky in the sense that it requires abstract reasoning.
It requires understanding what is being asked.
Yes. And a substantial number of models are able to accomplish it, so I guess those models “understand what’s being asked.” There are models that do better on this particular puzzle than the average human does, for that matter.
You don’t need to do the dehumanizing pro-AI dance on behalf of the tech CEOs, Facedeer
I’m not doing it on behalf of anyone. Should we ignore the technology because we don’t like the specific people who are developing it?
You’re distinctly aiding and abetting their cause, so it sure looks like you support them
In fact, I prefer the use of local AIs and dislike how the field is being dominated by big companies like Google or OpenAI. Unfortunately personal preferences don’t change reality.
What this shows though is that there isn’t actual reasoning behind it. Any improvements from here will likely be because this is a popular problem, and results will be brute forced with a bunch of data, instead of any meaningful change in how they “think” about logic
Plenty of people employ faulty reasoning every single day of their lives…
That’s why when I need help with something I don’t go out and ask a random human.
The goal when building AI isn’t to replicate dumb humans
You’re getting downvoted but it’s true. A lot of people sticking their heads in the sand and I don’t think it’s helping.
Yeah, “AI is getting pretty good” is a very unpopular opinion in these parts. Popularity doesn’t change the results though.
42 out of 53 models said to walk to the carwash.
And yet the best models outdid humans at this “car wash test.” Humans got it right only 71.5% of the time.
Its unpopular because its wrong.
It’s overhyped in many areas, but it is undeniably improving. The real question is: will it “snowball” by improving itself in a positive feedback loop? If it does, how much snow covered slope is in front of it for it to roll down?
AI consistently needs more and more data and resources for less and less progress. Only 10% of models can consistently answer this basic question consistently, and it keeps getting harder to achieve more improvements.
I think its far more likely to degrade itself in a feedback loop.
It’s already happening. GPT 5.2 is noticeably worse than previous versions.
It’s called model collapse.
To clarify : model collapse is a hypothetical phenomenon that has only been observed in toy models under extreme circumstances. This is not related in any way to what is happening at OpenAI.
OpenAI made a bunch of choices in their product design which basically boil down to “what if we used a cheaper, dumber model to reply to you once in a while”.
As someone who’s been using it in my work for the last 2 years, it’s my personal observation that while the models aren’t improving that much anymore, the tooling is getting much much better.
Before I used gpt for certain easy in concept, tedious to write functions. Today I hardly write any code at all. I review it all and have to make sure it’s consistent and stable but holy has my output speed improved.
The larger a project is the worse it gets and I often have to wrap up things myself as it shines when there’s less business logic and more scaffolding and predictable things.
I guess I’ll have to attribute a bunch of the efficiency increase to the fact that I’m more experienced in using these tools. What to use it for and when to give up on it.
For the record I’ve been a software engineer for 15 years