Screenshot of this question was making the rounds last week. But this article covers testing against all the well-known models out there.

Also includes outtakes on the ‘reasoning’ models.

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    13 hours ago

    To clarify : model collapse is a hypothetical phenomenon that has only been observed in toy models under extreme circumstances. This is not related in any way to what is happening at OpenAI.

    OpenAI made a bunch of choices in their product design which basically boil down to “what if we used a cheaper, dumber model to reply to you once in a while”.

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      6 hours ago

      The funny thing is, in order to get it to the dumber model, they have to run people’s queries through a model that selects the appropriate model first. This is resulted in new headaches for AI fans

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        5 hours ago

        Yeah that’s also something that you have to train for, i’m not super aware of the technicals but model routing is definitely important to the AI companies. I suspect that’s part of why they can pretend that “inference is profitable” as they are already trying to squeeze it down as much as possible.

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            4 hours ago

            Yeah i remember that Ed article ! I don’t think the technical aspects are relevant to the newer generation of models, but yeah of course any attempt to compress inference costs can have side effects : either response quality will degrade for using dumber models, or you’ll have re-inference costs when the dumb model shits its pants. In fact the re-inference can become super costly as dumber models tend to get lost in reasoning loops more easily.