• arirr@lemmy.kde.social
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    9 months ago

    Sigh I hate getting into it on social media, but this is just blatantly untrue.

    Hamas has shown just how brutal they are willing to be the past few days and they explicitly have in their charter the destruction of Israel. Hamas given the chance would absolutely ethically cleanse all of the Levant of Jews. The PLO has a martyr fund for dying while killing Israelis. Israel not fighting would absolutely lead to complete destruction.

    On the other hand, if Israel wanted to, it could completely wipe out any and all Palestinian areas. Palestine has no real air force, navy, or artillery and wouldn’t be able to stop them. The only reason Israel hasn’t done so is they have decided not to.

    This isn’t commentary on the entire conflict or the history or who is right/wrong. I’m just pointing out that this is factually incorrect.

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      9 months ago

      Correct, the situation is much more nuanced than a simple sign could say. Both sides have rights and very wrongs about them. The only thing that should really be on signs should be “both sides should stop the violence and talk it through”, but we all know about how well that would go. Still, star trek taught me that should be the goal.

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        9 months ago

        “both sides should stop the violence and talk it through”

        Hard to have a sit-down talk when one side (Palestine) outright says their goal is to kill all Jews and Christians.

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    9 months ago

    It’s true for both sides as they both can’t tolerate one another.

    I see no possible solution without a third power establishing a wide ass DMZ between the two and make sure the zone fucks over both equally. Ideally they’ll stop hating each other and focus on the DMZ being ass. Might give us relative peace for like a decade or two.

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        9 months ago

        Exactly, surely both will hate it. Classic parenting, if you can’t play nice no one can have it, puts toy on shelf. The really expensive part is building the infrastructure needed on the little space left to house all the people displaced. But hey work for a shit ton of people

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    9 months ago

    Incorrect. This statement is only true if Israel had started the war. Hamas started the War. Israel has to defend itself otherwise Hamas has already shown it will kill citizens of Israel. Hamas has gone as far as indoctrination of kids. You want to know who is in the right? The Palestinian National Authority. No one else

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    9 months ago

    Just fucking leave each other be, go fight it out in CSGO or something. Wars are fucking stupid and pointless.

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    9 months ago

    This isn’t a meme, nor a political one. There are three possibilities here:

    OP is a troll

    OP is stupid

    OP is a stupid troll

  • Sauvandu59@lemmy.my.id
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    9 months ago

    Very true, the creation of israel has been catastrophic for Palestinians. The British and Theodore Herzl should be blamed for this mess.

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    9 months ago

    Very disturbing that more than a few people are dumb enough to believe this.

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    9 months ago

    How is this getting downvoted? Regardless what your opinion on the matter is, this is objectively true. Israeli forces and government have been pushing into Palestine more and more, forcibly removed Palestine people from their homes and settling people there. So, Palestine literally would not exist in a few more years.

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      It’s downvoted because it’s objectively false. Israel has been attacked since day on in attempt to remove it from the map. If they were to stop fighting they wouldn’t exist. If it weren’t for Palestine constantly fighting, there wouldn’t even be a wall around Gaza.

    • The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      I would say it’s valid to dislike this as an oversimplification. It’s a super complex series of unintended and intended consequences, bad ideologies, and terrible behavior generally.

      They say war is a failure of imagination, and it has been increasingly hard for either of the belligerents to imagine peace.

      I think the only humane view we can take as bystanders is to support asylum seekers as much as possible and condemn war crimes no matter who does them. Most people are just caught up in the gears of history. Nobody deserves this.

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      9 months ago

      I downvoted it because it’s dumb.

      It may be “simple” for today, but it’s possible that the reverse can be true in a few years; it already was true in the past.