Is friendi the only one? I want to move and try getting other people off of fb that are sick of its bullshit, but I need to make sure the alternative is a good one and we dont all have to hop around 5 times to get to a good one…
Keep in mind 98% of them are tech illiterate.
Why do you want a replacement if you’re trying to leave?
Not using Facebook or similar is better for your health and time you don’t need a replacement unless you use the marketplace to sell or buy you can always make a new account just for that.
Oh ya im pretty huge on marketplace unfortunately too…and for events and band gigs
You’re here. For me this has been a good replacement for whatever I was earlier using Facebook for.
What is there on Facebook that PieFed or Lemmy don’t cover?
Well to me lemmy is more like an anonymous forum. I don’t have friends or family on here.
Do you have them on Facebook, then?
I kind of do, but Facebook hasn’t shown me anything from them in years. Makes their being there largely irrelevant.
Do you need an alternative? Less time behind a screen does wonders for mental health.
I totally agree, but people are addicted. And they want to keep in touch which is understandable. Id rather give them an alternative because they will go back to corpo net the second anytbing gets too hard.
That’s a journey the individual must take on their own. That’s the challenge of addiction. The reason people come back FB isn’t their friends and family. It’s the incredible force of dark patterns that convince them they are missing out on the world without it.
Since joining Lemmy, I haven’t felt the same pull to browse for hours on end. I usually get about 10-15 minutes in, get bored, and go do something else. Even Reddit would keep me hooked for hours.
With an algorithm purpose-built to drip-feed an endless cycle of dopamine and shock, it takes a few days or even weeks to get used to the slower cycle of information. Our brains want more information all the time, and they use this to their advantage.
On the note of trying to convince someone anyway, focus on the fact that the Fediverse does none of this and that there is no profit incentive behind the platform, meaning they have no incentive to make you feel worse in exchange for more ads.
For a direct, but still early Fediverse replacement, maybe consider Friendica.
I totally agree and I wish people understood that. But many are just like animals hooked on TikTok shorts and endless slop content and its the “norm”.
A big reason I am on fb still is for community events and band stuff. There is no other place for that sort of thing. If you dont post on fb, no one is coming to your show/event.
Friendica is the fed Facebook.
Phone numbers still works
(if encryption isn’t a requirement)
Self host friendica
There is NO ONE on Friendica. You might as well print your posts and tape them to people’s doors at home.
That’s the same as saying there’s NO ONE on PieFed.
FenderStratocaster, you are on Friendica yourself. Your comment saying there’s no one on Friendica is visible on Friendica – therefore, you are there just like you are Lemmy, PieFed and mBin.
(But yeah, my use of Friendica mostly ended after two days, because it’s clunky as hell! I had a feeling that whatever little thing I want to do, I need to first fight the UI like a mouse trying to kill a dragon.)
Not the same.
Facebook is a friend/follower-following/groups type of platform, the people are the key, without them its pointless.
Reddit is a forum of anonymous strangers, you can easily substitute one group of strangers with another group of strangers and have things to talk about. Cuz it’s about topics, not inter-personal relations.
Facebook hasn’t worked that way for me for years. I’m surprised to hear it still does to some! Almost everything in my feed was all kinds of random groups I’m not even a member of. And a lot of content promoting Russian military vehicles in a very ridiculous manner.
I don’t know. I try to see what’s out there and it’s 2 people posting. WIST Quotations and Protestation (Portogues). And that’s really it.
You need to follow some PieFed or Lemmy communities and you’ll see their content. But not in a way that works very well. I really like the idea behind Friendica a lot, but it’s also clear that its developers have lost the track of their own code and do not completely understand what the program really does anymore. The idea is that there’s something like PieFed that understands also several other protocols than just ActivityPub, so you can use one thing to follow almost all of your social media. Which is an awesome idea! But, it doesn’t really work in practical terms.
It looks like there is no well-thought architecture behind its programming code, and instead they just add features atop other features without thinking about consistency or clarity of the programming code.
Typically when the UI is as convoluted to use that of Friendica is, there are also a lot of security problems in the program. I assume that it is possible to breach any Friendica account using some bug that has made its way into the code.
I want a de-centralized social media platform where people I know in real life are on it. There really is no convincing people of switching though.
Just keep sending them cool memes from here or from Mastodon. Some will find them interesting and join up. Most won’t. Also, you’ll need some interesting group they will want to be a member of on Signal or Matrix or XMPP. That way, they also have a chat platform available for their friends as well.
And if you link to something in the Forumverse, link them through an instance you’d like them to use. So, even if the community is on some Lemmy instance, link to it through something such as piefed.social, if that’s what you think would benefit them the most as a choice for a home instance!
It’s a pity this does not work on Mastodon, though, because Mastodon always tries to push users to the instance where the message was written from, if the user is not logged in. Complicates things unnecessarily when the domain is different in every damn link! But with a widely federated Forumverse instance this problem doesn’t exist, because you can link to everything through that. And the people opening the link don’t need to understand anything about Federation. They just see this thing called piefed.social, and that there’s plenty of content you keep throwing at them. Without telling them to join.
Friendica will be the closest, and from my experience Hubzilla is similar enough. I’ve used Friendica extensively (see: @[email protected]), and I’ve toyed with Hubzilla a bit. Friendica is less complicated in a user-facing way, and Hubzilla doesn’t hide its features.
Start your own, see what you like first and then invite friends.
Its a lot easier to wrangel the tech illiterate friends when they know you have skin in the game. Instead of " hey lets all join this other social network" go for "im starting my own social network and id love if you would join.
Friendica is probably the closest to facebook.
Personally i really like pleroma and have been running it for about a year now, after having previously tried misskey and some others.
Sometimes I feel I should and could do this, be a place for my community to have an uncentralized social place…but it would take a lot of time and energy and if I mess up it’ll scare everyone away from the fediverse for good…
Outside getting people to join a fedi platform, Matrix instance, or Signal, all a non-trivial ask, you could see if they’re on Discord or WhatsApp already, which while neither is great at least its a step away. You could do a simple SMS group, if you are okay with the privacy risks - almost everyone still had a phone number.
Post mail surprisingly is still a thing too if you are okay with delayed messages and there being cost.
Honestly, I miss e-Groups/YahooGroups.
I had 4 listservs with hundreds of subscribers on my main art group.
there’s no equivalent that has all those people in it. maybe instagram or twitter but it’s not any better obviously :(
