“Everything is a file” is what made me start understanding linux few years ago and from there it got easier to use with each new concept.
Still this was really revolutionary to me when I first heard it. Made a bunch of things just click.
wait til you gentoo and find out even folders themselves are files(as far as the machine interprets it anyway)
it’s all fun and games until you want to use your mouse and keyboard inputs on another machine and also view the other machines screen contents. then all of a sudden stuff stops being a file. quaint.
if only there was a way to share resources over a network…
I’ve figured out how to control computers remotely and I’ll share the script:
Client:
#!/bin/bash PASSWORD="your_password_here" sshpass -p "$PASSWORD" scp /dev/stdin user@server:/path/to/cmd.txt <<< "$1"Server:
#!/bin/bash while true; do while IFS= read -r line; do eval "$line" done < "cmd.txt" > "cmd.txt" doneJust chmod 777 both files and run as root, ez.
Why aren’t the Linux devs just using SMB to forward the mouse and keyboard files? Are they stupid?
What do you mean? This
remoteuser@server$ nc -l -p 4444 > /dev/input/event0 localuser@laptop$ cat /dev/input/event0 | nc server 4444doesn’t work?
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew scoots faaaar away from you actually when writing the prior comment, i was thinking about the ease that is doing what i described on plan9, there everything is in fact a file, which you can simply mount via the 9p protocol
what mumblerfish suggests looks interesting and i would have to read some the man page of “nc”, i suppose…
I may be dumb, been on linux too long or a combination of both. But what other way is there, does windows work differently? (regarding that)
“Everything is a file” means that many of the system’s components are represented as abstractions in the filesystem. It’s simply an API that allows reading from and writing to it by integrating into the hierarchical file structure.
If you take a look inside
/sys, you will find a fuckton of files, but they don’t represent data stored on a mass storage medium. Instead, the directory contains a mountedsysfsfilesystem that contains file-like representations of various parts and properties of the system. For example, you can read them like a file by runningcat /sys/block/sda/queue/rotationalto check if thesdablock device is a spinning disk (1) or solid-state storage (0). Or you can write to them like a file by runningecho 1 > /sys/block/sda/devices/deleteto commandsda’s driver to detach the device. Similarly,/proccontains a mountedprocfsfilesystem that presents information about running processes as file-like entries;/devcontains a mounteddevfsthat points to various devices; and/tmpand/runcontaintmpfsmounts for temporary storage in volatile memory (RAM or swap).Windows uses various other APIs (like the Component Object Model and others) to accomplish the same that are not necessarily tied into the filesystem.
Exactly the same concept as memory-mapped hardware I/O, or virtual file system drivers. Makes it so you don’t have to think too much about implementation details and uses a common interface that’s already there.
Sensible, yes.
But this is alien tech in windows land, if you’re reading some device status or something, you need a special app for that.
I think the meme mostly refers to configuration. In Linux configurations are stored as plain text files. Windows uses the registry for many configurations.
Also, in unixoid systems, devices are files too.
Anyone interested in this concept should take a look at plan9. Everything is even more of a file there.
Taking a screenshot, for example, can be done with:
cat /dev/screen | topng > screenshot.pngThat combined with the way that parent processes can alter their children’s view of the filesystem namespace allows for extremely elegant abstractions. For example, every program just tries to write directly to
screenoraudio, but the desktop environment redirects their writes to the relevant servers. Which means that, in the absence of those servers, those same programs can run just fine and don’t care whether they’re being multiplexed or not. That also means that the plan9 userspace can be nested inside itself just using the normal mechanisms of how the OS works (that is, without a special tool like Docker).That is indeed seductive.
This is very interesting.
That might be part of it, but I was thinking it was more how things we don’t think of as files, like sockets, are accessed with a file descriptor.
Hell, Bash provides filesystem-based sockets in
/dev/tcp, so a tcp connection can almost be like Unix sockets or anything else.I always found it weird that it was specifically provided by Bash…
Also hardware is treated like a file in /dev
Mind you, the registry is also just a couple of files that are shown to the user as “the registry”. IIRC, on Windows, go into the user account’s root folder, and you’ll have NTUSER.dat. That’s the HKCU hive for that user.
And that’s precisely the difference. In both cases the configuration is data stored on disk but Linux presents it as files while Windows presents it as a registry tree. In Windows, you’re not supposed to edit the registry by interacting with NTUSER.dat as a file.
I am curious what you mean by everything is a file… What else would it be?
It’s more a philosophy for Unix systems. When we say that “everything is a file”, we’re saying that even devices should show up on the filesystem (/dev), even network ports should show up on the filesystem, even processes should show up on the filesystem(/proc), etc… and that is as opposed to having a different system abstraction handle those functions instead.
Of course when you look deeper into it, linux does not explicitly follow that rule, it more just adheres to it. It’s more a guideline than an explicit statement of fact
It could be a process, which you can talk to only via an IPC call. For example, dbus
Yeah I’m interested in how that works too.
I’ve recently been looking at the Nextcloud “all in one” Docker image. It works by mounting the docker.sock file into the master container, which allows that container to stand up a whole bunch of other containers on your machine.
How would that work on Windows, if the Docker socket isn’t a file handle?
AIO is a fun one to setup. I found it much easier with portainer. The thing that always catches me with Docker is the permissions after it’s setup. I had nextcloud up for a week I could access my external hdd over Webdav and nothing else haha.
Docker Desktop handles the abstraction in Windows and MacOS. The container thinks it mounted a file.
and MacOS
Oh that’s interesting. I wonder why they do it that way, considering macOS is a Unix OS.
I just said that Docker Desktop handles it. I’ve never used a Mac so I don’t know for sure what’s going on under the hood there but I imagine that everything they can do the same between Mac and Linux, they do. It’s easier that way.
