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Picture of the Andromeda Galaxy, with an arrow pointing towards earth. The text for the arrow reads: “YOU ARE HERE”. And the bottom text reads: “AND GOD IS EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR PEE PEE!”

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  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    I genuinely don’t see how religious zealots could possibly believe half the shit they believe unless they truly think space is fake and only the solar system, specifically Earth, exists and matters.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      There’s entire branches of theology undermining every major world religion that dedicate themselves to rationalizing the Divine Bureaucracy. “God doesn’t care, because he is big and I am small” is as true as “The American President doesn’t care what I’m up to in Venezuela, because he’s very far away and I’m not that important in the grand scheme of geopolitics”.

      What zealots are inclined to believe in is the Angelic Delta Force and its capacity to inflict sudden, horrifying, and indiscriminate violence on the wrong kind of person. If you study the history of Cargo Cults you’ll discover people who experience traumatizing, inexplainable phenomena can often build up superstitious rituals in an effort to control things that are fundamentally beyond their grasp.

      It isn’t that “space is fake” nearly so much as “There are things beyond my grasp that bother me, so I’m changing my personal behavior in the vain hope it will protect me from these anxiety-inducing events”.

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      21 hours ago

      Generally speaking it rests on “god” or “gods” being beyond our comprehension. The whole “biblically accurate angel” thing isn’t just a meme, to some degree it’s also best effort attempts at making images of something described in a way that most people nowadays would consider borderline lovecraftian.

      So it kinda follows that if those things are supposed to be the approachable messengers, than anything remotely human-like can’t map well to the “form” of the god over them.

      Also, biblically there’s already arguments for time not being a thing for the Christian god.

      If omniscience is truly what it says on the tin, there’s no reason that a being with it couldn’t care about what every creature in the universe is doing with their respective reproductive bits, as well as caring about every single more important thing everywhere, simultaneously. The whole point of omni-* in terms of gods is to be limitless.

      I genuinely don’t get how you could possibly think that’s somehow mutually exclusive with believing in space/the universe. The universe is so incomprehensibly big compared to what any of us will get to directly experience in our lifetime. If anything I would think it would make it easier to believe in a being similarly incomprehensibly outside the scope of human existence, experience, and understanding. Like you’re perfectly fine with the cosmic infinities, but you can’t bring yourself to imagine some being one more level hierarchally above that?

      You think that someone could look at all the amazing and wildly weird shit in this world, think that some god being made it all happen, but then also think “yeah, it definitely stopped there, no more”?

      Like, I’m sure there’s plenty of people that do. There absolutely were over the course of history. But to me it just seems kind of like a huge conceptual schism to believe in some sort of god being and not believe in space/the universe/etc.