Hey, I’m gonna go out there and say plenty of them are Mr Garrisons. We see the same shit in any force. If you need headcount, offer the poor enough and they’ll do it. Nit because they agree, but because shits so fucked they’re being offered silver lining and more.
Always send your energy toward the head of the snake. Those coordinating, those leading. ICE grunts are riddled with fuckheads, but some of them are not. ICE team leaders are guaranteed fuck heads. Up and up and up, the bigger the fuck headery. Aim for the head.
Every force in history has socially worked this way
you’re both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone
Nope. If you’re a member of ICE in the year 2025 you are an amoral piece of shit that deserves every bit of suffering the universe deals to you. “Just following orders” wasn’t an acceptable defense 80 years ago and it isn’t now.
Honestly the only reason I’m not advocating for direct violence against these monsters is because it will only make the situation worse. Let them burn.
Sickens me that people are upvoting this and think this way. Oh won’t someone think of the poor fascists. They need to provide for their families, so its okay for them to terrorize and kill indiscriminately.
These are not golden-hearted dimwits who just need to see the light. This is not a Disney movie with a villain redemption plot. These are fascists, do you understand what that means? They take pleasure in what they do because they think they are purging mutants and heathens for the greater good. The paychecks are a bonus. They are not using them to provide for their beaten children and raped spouses, they are using them to buy bigger guns to slaughter more “others”
You want to stay on the fence about fascism, go ahead. I can’t stop you, I’m just text on the internet. But you are doing tangible harm to real people in this world by trying to white wash what is happening and giving a pass to the people making it happen.
We already know why. They’re cowards and collaborators who think they’ll get to sleep at the foot of the bed if they obey and throw the rest of us to the wolves. They think they’re noble and pious by sticking to the middle of the road, better than all of us. Who needs messy ethics and functional moral compasses when you can just claim you’re above all the “petty squabbling”.
Fascists only protect their own. Centrists are useful idiots and tools for the extreme right and always have been. They think they’re safe by staying “neutral”. What they refuse to understand is that they are on the purge lists like everyone else, they just aren’t as high up in priority as the rest of us.
Just upvoted, because I believe in Arendt banality of evil. These are horrible movie collabs. Most are just doing their job. I think we should protest against them, sure, but they themselves are just cogs in the machine.
Also: this sort of divisive approach to a political discussion is corrosive to any good faith argument. That’s why I will not engage any further with this thread
Yes, leadership is to blame, but leaders are only leaders when people follow.
What ICE is doing is not a secret. No one, not a single person, is forced to join ICE. They choose to do so. Everyday when they show up to work, they reaffirm that choice. You’re argument is we shouldn’t blame the agents for choosing to break apart families, attack people for their race, or kidnap children because the ICE agent needed a job? Fuck that noise. If your personal ethos allows you to destroy other people’s lives so you can have a paycheck, then you are morally bankrupt, and I absolutely will blame you for what’s happening.
Hey, I’m gonna go out there and say plenty of them are Mr Garrisons. We see the same shit in any force. If you need headcount, offer the poor enough and they’ll do it. Nit because they agree, but because shits so fucked they’re being offered silver lining and more.
Always send your energy toward the head of the snake. Those coordinating, those leading. ICE grunts are riddled with fuckheads, but some of them are not. ICE team leaders are guaranteed fuck heads. Up and up and up, the bigger the fuck headery. Aim for the head.
Every force in history has socially worked this way
just following orders doesn’t cut it
you’re both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone
Nope. If you’re a member of ICE in the year 2025 you are an amoral piece of shit that deserves every bit of suffering the universe deals to you. “Just following orders” wasn’t an acceptable defense 80 years ago and it isn’t now.
Honestly the only reason I’m not advocating for direct violence against these monsters is because it will only make the situation worse. Let them burn.
Sickens me that people are upvoting this and think this way. Oh won’t someone think of the poor fascists. They need to provide for their families, so its okay for them to terrorize and kill indiscriminately.
These are not golden-hearted dimwits who just need to see the light. This is not a Disney movie with a villain redemption plot. These are fascists, do you understand what that means? They take pleasure in what they do because they think they are purging mutants and heathens for the greater good. The paychecks are a bonus. They are not using them to provide for their beaten children and raped spouses, they are using them to buy bigger guns to slaughter more “others”
You want to stay on the fence about fascism, go ahead. I can’t stop you, I’m just text on the internet. But you are doing tangible harm to real people in this world by trying to white wash what is happening and giving a pass to the people making it happen.
Well these are the people upvoting this shit, maybe we should ask them why?
We already know why. They’re cowards and collaborators who think they’ll get to sleep at the foot of the bed if they obey and throw the rest of us to the wolves. They think they’re noble and pious by sticking to the middle of the road, better than all of us. Who needs messy ethics and functional moral compasses when you can just claim you’re above all the “petty squabbling”.
Fascists only protect their own. Centrists are useful idiots and tools for the extreme right and always have been. They think they’re safe by staying “neutral”. What they refuse to understand is that they are on the purge lists like everyone else, they just aren’t as high up in priority as the rest of us.
Wait what are we upvoting? I didn’t get the memo
Just upvoted, because I believe in Arendt banality of evil. These are horrible movie collabs. Most are just doing their job. I think we should protest against them, sure, but they themselves are just cogs in the machine.
Also: this sort of divisive approach to a political discussion is corrosive to any good faith argument. That’s why I will not engage any further with this thread
Yes, leadership is to blame, but leaders are only leaders when people follow.
What ICE is doing is not a secret. No one, not a single person, is forced to join ICE. They choose to do so. Everyday when they show up to work, they reaffirm that choice. You’re argument is we shouldn’t blame the agents for choosing to break apart families, attack people for their race, or kidnap children because the ICE agent needed a job? Fuck that noise. If your personal ethos allows you to destroy other people’s lives so you can have a paycheck, then you are morally bankrupt, and I absolutely will blame you for what’s happening.
After this is all over, we have all the receipts
None of these red hats will ever know peace nor polite society ever again
Of South park fame? I don’t see your point. But I haven’t watched the most recent episodes 🤷
In any case, go onto THE POLICE PROBLEM and watch some of the videos. Nothing mitigating to see there.