And what language and region is it?

I’ve noticed my language teacher uses the informal you in one language and the formal one in the other.

  • Droggelbecher@lemmy.worldOP
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    21 hours ago

    I could answer my own question, actually!

    For reference, I’m in western austria, speaking German. The class I’m taking is A2 French.

    My region is pretty different from most of the German speaking ‘world’. We use the formal you much less. The informal one is more or less th default, except:

    You’re in secondary school. The teachers will use the informal one for students and the students have to use the formal one for most teachers. In high school, students can technically request that teachers use the formal you for them, but nobody does. I teach night school, and nobody used the formal you. Most of my students are very roughly around my age.

    You’re seeing a doctor you don’t repeatedly go to, e.g. at the hospital. We use informal you for the specialists and GPs we see regularly, unless they’re ~60+.

    You’re a bachelor’s student. Formal you for both students and professors. Unless the teacher is a masters or PhD student, then informal you both ways. Masters and PhD students tend to use informal you with professors and vice versa, but some professors will be the exception and there will be formal you both ways.

    Court. Formal you, except between a lawyer and their client.

    Some stuffy, old fashioned workplaces use formal you, but only between boss and employees, very very rarely between employees. If it’s some higher level management person you don’t usually work with, it’s more likely you’ll use formal you both ways.

    Super specific, but 80+ year old people who’ve never lived outside a city will want kids to use formal you for them, but they’ll use the informal one for the kids.

    German tourists. We’re aware that informal you is more common in Germany, and try to me courteous. Except those of us who hate tourists, lol.

    That’s all the exceptions I can think of! For everyone else, including strangers (e.g. when asking for directions, cashiers, waiters, etc.) we use the informal one!

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      17 hours ago

      We use the formal you much less.
      Informal you is more common in other places

      “The “you” we use here is neither formal nor informal, but a secret third thing.”

      No but seriously, what did you mean to say? Germany make up roughly 8/10 German speakers, so “most of the German speaking world, except Germany” doesn’t really mean anything to me.

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          10 hours ago

          That doesn’t change anything?

          You said you use the formal you more than Germans, but less than the “German speaking world”. It’s a bit weird to use that phrase to mean “any German speakers except Germans” I think, especially in the way you wrote it.

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            10 hours ago

            Please reread my common. I said in my region, western austria, we use the formal you less than the rest of the German speaking world does.

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        18 hours ago

        Haha close, 950 commuting down to 600. But it’s the same down there in the city. Most of my social contacts as well as my work are there, anyway!